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* Pin 2 is an analog output | * Pin 2 is an analog output | ||
* Pin 3 is an analog or PWM input | * Pin 3 is an analog or PWM input | ||
* Pin 5 and 7 are interlock | * Pin 5 and 7 are interlock - not sure what to do with it, can be left floating. | ||
* Pin 6 is LIN | * Pin 6 is LIN | ||
* Pin 4 and 8 are unused | * Pin 4 and 8 are unused | ||
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While there is a document describing the [https://www2.calact.org/assets/4d.%20Heater%20Info%20-%209035422C_II-OI_HVH_50_and_70_EN%2019-01%20PMC.pdf LIN interface] , Webasto seems to have altered the interface for different OEMs. According to the document, LIN bus speed is 19200 but on a unit obtained from ebay it was 9600. So always try both. | While there is a document describing the [https://www2.calact.org/assets/4d.%20Heater%20Info%20-%209035422C_II-OI_HVH_50_and_70_EN%2019-01%20PMC.pdf LIN interface] , Webasto seems to have altered the interface for different OEMs. According to the document, LIN bus speed is 19200 but on a unit obtained from ebay it was 9600. So always try both. | ||
The data format | The data format found on one device is as follows. The scaling is identical to the document. The document is not clear on bit positions, so they may or may not be compatible | ||
{| class="wikitable" | {| class="wikitable" | ||
|+HVH LIN Protocol | |+HVH LIN Protocol | ||
!Command | !Command | ||
! | !ID | ||
!Byte 1 | !Byte 1 | ||
!2 | !2 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|Write power | |Write power | ||
|35 | |21 (35) | ||
| | |Power limit | ||
1 digit=40W | |||
|Temp setpoint | |Temp setpoint | ||
1 digit=1 degree | 1 digit=1 degree | ||
Offset -40 | Offset -40 | ||
| | |0 | ||
| 8=on | |||
| - | | - | ||
| - | | - | ||
| - | | - | ||
| - | | - | ||
|- | |||
|Read Meas | |||
|22 (24) | |||
|Status | |||
4=running | |||
|Outlet temp | |||
Scaling as above | |||
|Inlet temp | |||
| - | | - | ||
|Voltage LSB | |||
|Voltage MSB - 2 bits | |||
Power LSB - 6 bits | |||
|Power MSB | |||
1 digit=20W | |||
|Unknown | |||
|- | |- | ||
|Read Status | |Read Status | ||
|40 | |23 (40) | ||
|various | |various | ||
|status | |status | ||
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| | | | ||
| | | | ||
|} | |} | ||
Some units allow control via a simple on off signal on Pin 3 (12V=heat up liquid to 85°C) and some units allow a strange PWM control between 50-100Hz where 25%-81% duty cycles allow setting various power levels. | IDs in () are from the manual, the other ones are those I actually found. | ||
Some units allow control via a simple on off signal on Pin 3 (12V=heat up liquid to 85°C) and some units allow a strange PWM control between 50-100Hz where 25%-81% duty cycles allow setting various power levels. On my ebay unit this did not work. Only 12V and LIN needed to be connected, all else unconnected. | |||
Revision as of 19:46, 20 April 2021
The Webasto HVH series are electrical water heaters typically used in popular PHEV.
Connectors
The HV connector is a Tyco HVA280 connector with A-key (might be different on other devices).
The small center pins are for interlock (detect that the connector is seated). The right pin (with tab facing upwards) is HV+, the left one HV-
The LV connector is best found by the VW part number 1J0973714
- Pin 1 is permanent 12V
- Pin 2 is an analog output
- Pin 3 is an analog or PWM input
- Pin 5 and 7 are interlock - not sure what to do with it, can be left floating.
- Pin 6 is LIN
- Pin 4 and 8 are unused
Ground must be connected to the case via a stud.
Communication & Control
While there is a document describing the LIN interface , Webasto seems to have altered the interface for different OEMs. According to the document, LIN bus speed is 19200 but on a unit obtained from ebay it was 9600. So always try both.
The data format found on one device is as follows. The scaling is identical to the document. The document is not clear on bit positions, so they may or may not be compatible
| Command | ID | Byte 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Write power | 21 (35) | Power limit
1 digit=40W |
Temp setpoint
1 digit=1 degree Offset -40 |
0 | 8=on | - | - | - | - |
| Read Meas | 22 (24) | Status
4=running |
Outlet temp
Scaling as above |
Inlet temp | - | Voltage LSB | Voltage MSB - 2 bits
Power LSB - 6 bits |
Power MSB
1 digit=20W |
Unknown |
| Read Status | 23 (40) | various | status | info |
IDs in () are from the manual, the other ones are those I actually found.
Some units allow control via a simple on off signal on Pin 3 (12V=heat up liquid to 85°C) and some units allow a strange PWM control between 50-100Hz where 25%-81% duty cycles allow setting various power levels. On my ebay unit this did not work. Only 12V and LIN needed to be connected, all else unconnected.