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Revision as of 07:46, 16 November 2023
Forum board: https://openinverter.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=19
| Property | Value | Source |
|---|---|---|
| Device | Combined Motor, Gearbox and Rear Differential | |
| OEM | Mitsubishi | |
| Type | AC Motor 8 Pole 3 Phase synchronous perm magnet brushless | https://www.secondlife-evbatteries.com/meiden-ev-motor-60kw-9300rpm.html
https://youtube.com/shorts/44d0oVFn65k?si=PGjDBKYoHPsX_md7 https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=325&start=30 |
| Manufacturer | Meidensha | https://www.meidensha.com/products/case/prod_05/prod_05_01/prod_05_01_01/prod_05_01_01_01/1210605_4260.html |
| Suppliers | Ebay, Second Life EV Batteries | https://www.secondlife-evbatteries.com/meiden-ev-motor-60kw-9300rpm.html |
| Max RPM | 9600RPM | |
| Mechanical Mounting | 6x 55mm M10x1.25 Fine Thread Bolt front face flange (all in same plane)
3x 30mm M12x.25 Fine Thread Bolt Rear Flange (all in same plane) used for bush mount on Outlander |
Author experience |
| Shaft Type | 20.02mm 18 splines, ~60mm long
Clutch plate from a Suzuki Jimny SJ410 appears to fit, part number ADK83106 |
https://www.secondlife-evbatteries.com/meiden-ev-motor-60kw-9300rpm.html |
| Resolver | SIN COS - P/N C69600/TS2239N484E102
Believed to be similar to Nissan Leaf resolver |
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMNz2BVPSATZFJxgwIvy0RAeNAwn0TLJJL7NBwxbpH32LbWNkGhybiNrdkTsTOLxg?key=TmNWY04zNFQ4cXZzNWUzUEJfcTZUeGtHVkxyZEtB |
| Cooling | Water/glycol cooling (Blue on Outlander) | Author experience |
| Weight | 42kg motor, 15.5kg differential, 3kg brackets | https://www.secondlife-evbatteries.com/meiden-ev-motor-60kw-9300rpm.html, https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=60558#p60558 |
| Power To Weight Ratio | 70kW Motor: 1.66 kW/kg | |
| Diff Ratio | 7.065:1 | http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.hk/uploads/file_1465376705.pdf |
| Motor Part Numbers | 9499D146 (01/08/13 > 30/09/17) GG2W 2000 plug in hybrid | Mitsubishi Outlander Online Parts Catalogue |
| Motor Part Numbers | 9411A078 (01/05/18 > ) GG2W 2000 plug in hybrid | Mitsubishi Outlander Online Parts Catalogue |
| Motor Part Numbers | 9411A078 (01/05/18 >) GG3W 2400 plug in hybrid | Mitsubishi Outlander Online Parts Catalogue |
| 3D Printable Parts | 3 Phase & Resolver | https://github.com/SomersetEV/mitsubishi-outlander-rear-motor-3d-printed-parts |
| Outlander PHEV transmission oil replacement: | 60.000KM or when is changing color(red to black)/smell(burned)
Quantity Rear F1E1A - 0.85L Use ATF SP III MZ312096K 1L |
https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=62681#p62681https://www.amazon.com/SP-III-Special-Synthetic-Transmission-Fluid/dp/B00506UNEC?th=1 |
Example Ebay Listing:
Description
The Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV (Plug-in Hybrid) uses 3x AC motor/generators - 2 in the front gearbox (One is designated as a generator) and 1 in the rear. The rear motor appears to be the more powerful of the 3, and it is coupled to a rear differential unit which is mounted underneath the vehicle. The Rear differential has female driveshaft splines and a ratio of 7.065:1. The motor is driven by a dedicated rear inverter unit, and the combined system appears to have different power ratings in different model years. The whole unit could lend itself well to rear engined/rear wheel drive EV conversion applications - e.g. Toyota MR2, VW Beetle, rear engined Porsches, Lotus. Brat Industries has a shaft adapter that allows various flanges. The Motor can also be easily decoupled from the Gearbox/Differential unit and with an adaptor plate and coupling could be used on either Front wheel drive applications, or Front engined, rear wheel drive. There are already some examples of the drive being used with the OpenInverter, and also with the OEM motor inverter.
Power Rating
It is possible that the motor is the same for all model years (all use the Y61 designation) and either inverter is different or increased power output is from software only. 2018 models have 13.6kWh battery rather than 12kWh.
| Model Years | Motor Power | Motor Torque | Part Number |
|---|---|---|---|
| TBC - TBC | 50 kW | TBC | Y61 |
| TBC - 2018 | 60 kW | 195Nm Peak @ 0-4500rpm | Y61 |
| 2018 - | 70 kW | 195Nm Peak @ 0-4500rpm | Y61 |
Mitsubishi/FUSO part numbers include 9411A078[1], 9499D132, 9499D146, and MEIDEN part numbers include F1E1A2B5Z
Connectors
High Voltage
3x 3 phase lug connections with HV gland plate
Signal Connector
Resolver/Temperature sensor: Hirose GT18WB-14DS-HU
Resolver Connector Colours/Resistance:
R12 - 35,5R Black, White
S13 - 86,4R Green, Red
S24 - 78,5R Yelow, Blue
The polarity of all six wires have to be correct in order for the motor to work.
Resolver/Temperature sensor OEM cable/harness part number: 8556A131 (can be used as a source for the connector if stock of the Hirose connector isn't available)
Pinout of Resolver/Temperature Sensor connector:
| Pin | Label | Description |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | N/A | Not used |
| 2 | TG2 | Temperature sensor 2 ground |
| 3 | TG1 | Temperature sensor 1 ground |
| 4 | RGND | Resolver ground |
| 5 | S4 | Cos connection |
| 6 | S3 | Sin connection |
| 7 | R2 | Exciter connection |
| 8 | N/A | Not used |
| 9 | TH2 | Temperature sensor 2 |
| 10 | TH1 | Temperature sensor 1 |
| 11 | N/A | Not used |
| 12 | S2 | Cos connection |
| 13 | S1 | Sin connection |
| 14 | R1 | Exciter connection |
Vehicle Wiring Diagrams
http://mmc-manuals.ru/manuals/outlander_phev/online/Service_Manual_2014/2019/index_M1.htm
