Mitsubishi Outlander Front Transaxle

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Gearbox

Weight TBC
Motor - Differential ratio 9.663
Generator - Engine ratio 2.736
Engine - Differential ratio 3.425
Item N·m
Drain plug 35 ± 4
Filler plug (the underside) 32 ± 2
Filler plug (the upper side) 35 ± 4
Break off bolt <Vehicles for England> 7.5 ± 1.5
Electrical parking actuator mounting bolts 28 ± 4
Valve body assembly mounting bolts 9.0 ± 2.0
Plug(Valve body) 7.0 ± 1.0
Connector mounting bolts 7.0 ± 1.0

The 'generator'

It looks like this is the motor that is sold by SLEVB as https://www.secondlife-evbatteries.com/70kw-ev-motor-with-14000rpm.html

Interestingly they claim it as 70kw, where as the motor as 60kw, both weigh the same.

Weight 29.5kg
Type Permanent Magnet Synchronous
Max RPM 14k (According to SLEVB)
Power 70Kw (According to SLEVB) but I suspect it's the same as the motor based on them weighing the same.
Manufacturer Meiden
Manufacturer Part
Suggested Firmware Use Field Orientated Control (FOC) firmware
Resolver Pole Count Unconfirmed
Resolver Part number C88691 / TS2239N484E102 (Tamagawa E102 series)
Looks to be a custom VR Type Resolver https://www.tamagawa-seiki.com/products/resolver-synchro/vr-type-resolver-singlsyn.html
Motor Pole Count 8 (4 Pole pairs) not confirmed
Temperature Sensors This has 2 temperature sensors on 2 of the phase coils and also an oil temperature sensor.

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Pin 11 GTH1 - temperature in the U-phase coil (+ve) Pin 12: GTH2 - temperature in the W-phase coil (+ve) Pin 13: TH0 - oil temperature thermistor (+ve) Pin 14: GTG1 - temperature in the U-phase coil (-ve) Pin 15: GTG2 - temperature in the W-phase coil (-ve) Pin 16: TG0 - oil temperature thermistor (-ve)

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Pin 1: R1 - the first connection for the exciter coil Pin 2: S1 - the first connector for output coil 1 Pin 3: S2 - the first connector for output coil 2 (S2-1) Pin 4: R2 - the second connection for the exciter coil Pin 5: S3 - the second connection for output coil 1 (S1-2) Pin 6: S4 - the second connection for output coil 2 (S2-2) Pin 7: GGND - earth connection to the ECU

The motor

It looks like this is the motor that is sold by SLEVB as https://www.secondlife-evbatteries.com/meiden-ev-motor-60kw-14000rpm-electric-project-emrax-replacement.html

Weight 29.5kg
Type Permanent Magnet Synchronous
Max RPM 14k (According to SLEVB)
Power 60Kw (According to SLEVB)
Manufacturer Meiden
Manufacturer Part S61
Suggested Firmware Use Field Orientated Control (FOC) firmware
Resolver Pole Count 4 Pole Pairs based on the photo below, the shaft having 4 lobes.
Resolver Part number C88691 / TS2239N484E102 (Tamagawa E102 series)
Looks to be a custom VR Type Resolver https://www.tamagawa-seiki.com/products/resolver-synchro/vr-type-resolver-singlsyn.html
Tamagawa will not release the datasheet for this unit. "Unfortunately, this is an exclusive model for our authorized customer.

We are not able to provide technical data directly to you."

Motor Pole Count 8 (4 Pole pairs) not confirmed
Temperature Sensor This only have the 2 phase coil sensors and is lacking the oil temperature sensor.

Output Shafts

The generator and motor have a 19mm output shaft with 17 splines. This is a very close fit for the Ford Fiesta clutch. Model number 8V21-7550-DE or G44BA. Another part number also fits HD2392 from Fiesta 77-92, Escort III

User @bexander points to https://aftermarket.zf.com/go/en/sachs/catalogs/#/ which shows that this fitting is common to a wide range of Ford and Mazda part numbers.

FORD

1518195, 1529952, 1576249, 1678827, 1708209, 1804545, 1805271, 1826509, 1852056, 2115219, 2245763, 8V21-7540-DA, 8V21-7540-DB, 8V21-7540-DC, 8V21-7540-DD, 8V21-7540-DE, 8V21-7540-DF, 8V21-7540-DG, 8V21-7540-FA, 8V21-7550-DE, 8V21-7563-DD, RM8V21-7540-DF, RM8V21-7540-DG, RM8V21-7540-FA

MAZDA

Y604-16-490, Y604-16-490A, Y604-16-490B, Y604-16-490C, Y604-16-490D, Y604-16-490E