Kia Niro BMS

evdc · Post by **evdc** » Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:10 pm

Thanks for the answer @bexander , but if you see here

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, the balance is included for the 1st, 3rd and 5th cells for all modules except for the 7th module, which is correctly written on serial.out, however, in practice it starts the balance of the 3rd cell can be noticed here

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High Cell: 3985V Module: 10 Cell: 3  Low Cell: 3852V Module: 7 Cell: 3
Total Voltage: 425932
High Cell Temp C: 14  Low Cell Temp C: 12  High Die Temp C: 20

because when the balance of the 3rd cell in the 7th module is not released

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the voltage is like this

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High Cell: 4002V Module: 10 Cell: 3  Low Cell: 3881V Module: 7 Cell: 3
Total Voltage: 426104
High Cell Temp C: 14  Low Cell Temp C: 12  High Die Temp C: 20

Best Regards

bexander · Post by **bexander** » Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:08 pm

When cell balancing is active you can not trust the cell voltage readings. When a cell is balanced it will have effect on adjecent cell voltage readings. To measure the cell voltages correctly, no balancing can be active while taking measurement.

An example from an old log.
Voltage reading at rest (no balancing):
1: 4136 4144 4142 4143 4142 4141 4143 4142
Balancing active as follows:
1: 0010 0101
Voltage reading with active balancing:
1: 4136 4153 4121 4154 4150 4125 4159 4124

evdc · Post by **evdc** » Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:28 pm

bexander wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:08 pm When cell balancing is active you can not trust the cell voltage readings. When a cell is balanced it will have effect on adjecent cell voltage readings. To measure the cell voltages correctly, no balancing can be active while taking measurement.

An example from an old log.
Voltage reading at rest (no balancing):
1: 4136 4144 4142 4143 4142 4141 4143 4142
Balancing active as follows:
1: 0010 0101
Voltage reading with active balancing:
1: 4136 4153 4121 4154 4150 4125 4159 4124

Ok, but why when I turn off the balancing of the 7th module completely I keep seeing how the 3rd cell discharges? I also charged and discharged the battery for a week and the balance only got worse!

Best regards

manny · Post by **manny** » Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:12 pm

if one cell always discharging. I would look for a hardware problem.

first check the cell voltage with a multimeter. and compare them with the bms readings.

if without the bms connected the battery still discharges.
maybe the cell is bad or the bms chip is damaged and the balance is always on?

evdc · Post by **evdc** » Thu Oct 24, 2024 7:04 pm

manny wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:12 pm if one cell always discharging. I would look for a hardware problem.

first check the cell voltage with a multimeter. and compare them with the bms readings.

if without the bms connected the battery still discharges.
maybe the cell is bad or the bms chip is damaged and the balance is always on?

I did the following test, when I ran a balance on all modules up to and including the 7th, there was no problem and it didn't include the balance on the 3rd cell, however when I ran a balance on all the modules up to 8 then it ran the balance on the 3rd cell from my 7th module even though it didn't was included in the balance command being sent. I think it triggered the balance of all modules from 1st to 7th the same way it did for my 8th module! Check if I address the modules correctly and there was no problem there, I really don't know how to solve this problem.

Best Regards

bexander · Post by **bexander** » Fri Oct 25, 2024 1:03 am

Have you tried swapping position of the different modules? Do you still have the same effect when having module 7 as module 1 or as module 12?

Test with this SW and all modules. Do you still have the same behaviour?

BMS_test_OI.ino: (45.27 KiB) Downloaded 97 times

evdc · Post by **evdc** » Fri Oct 25, 2024 4:09 pm

bexander wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 1:03 am Have you tried swapping position of the different modules? Do you still have the same effect when having module 7 as module 1 or as module 12?

Test with this SW and all modules. Do you still have the same behaviour?
BMS_test_OI.ino

Hello, after I set my pin out to the code they sent me, I got the serial out, I don't know why.

Best Regards

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bexander · Post by **bexander** » Sat Oct 26, 2024 12:31 pm

The CAN init fails. The SPI-bus setup is done by CAN init, hence the MAX17841 init fails as well.
I suggest you start by looking at why the CAN-init fails.

evdc · Post by **evdc** » Sat Oct 26, 2024 1:37 pm

bexander wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 12:31 pm The CAN init fails. The SPI-bus setup is done by CAN init, hence the MAX17841 init fails as well.
I suggest you start by looking at why the CAN-init fails.

Can I not use CAN to run this program?

bexander · Post by **bexander** » Sat Oct 26, 2024 2:06 pm

No need to use CAN but you then need to setup the SPI-bus in another way.

evdc · Post by **evdc** » Sat Oct 26, 2024 4:27 pm

bexander wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 2:06 pm No need to use CAN but you then need to setup the SPI-bus in another way.

Hello, I was able to run the test code that you sent me and I compared the series output of the two codes and I think I understood what the main error is.

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Entering Configuration Mode Failure...
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InitCAN WD timeout
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2: 3918 3916 3919 3917 3918 3918 -18 79 13
3: 3916 3918 3918 3916 3918 3919 79 -18 14
4: 3918 3918 3918 3918 3919 3919 -18 79 15
5: 3916 3916 3918 3916 3884 3917 79 -18 14
6: 3917 3919 3919 3918 3918 3919 -18 79 14
7: 3919 3919 3919 3916 3899 3917 79 -18 13
8: 3918 3919 3918 3919 3918 3920 -18 79 14
9: 3918 3918 3911 3919 3918 3919 79 -18 14
10: 3917 3919 3919 3914 3917 3919 -18 79 14
11: 3918 3919 3919 3919 3919 3919 79 -18 14
12: 3918 3917 3911 3919 3917 3919 -18 79 14
13: 3919 3919 3918 3918 3917 3920 79 -18 14
14: 3918 3916 3918 3919 3772 3918 -18 79 14
15: 3917 3919 3917 3919 3917 3919 79 -18 14
16: 3918 3919 3919 3917 3918 3918 -18 79 14
17: 3917 3919 3919 3918 3916 3918 79 -18 14
18: 3916 3920 3917 3917 3920 3880 -18 79 14
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5: 3916 3916 3918 3916 3883 3917 79 -18 14
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12: 3919 3918 3911 3919 3917 3919 -18 79 14
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14: 3918 3916 3918 3918 3772 3919 -18 79 14
15: 3918 3919 3917 3919 3917 3919 79 -18 14
16: 3918 3919 3919 3917 3918 3918 -18 79 14
17: 3918 3919 3919 3917 3915 3918 79 -18 14
18: 3916 3920 3917 3918 3920 3880 -18 79 14
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UARTSlaveDevicesWakeUp done 1
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Modules:18
all slaves balance off 
Balance cells
High Cell: 3922V Module: 0 Cell: 1  Low Cell: 3774V Module: 4 Cell: 4
Total Voltage: 422901
High Cell Temp C: 11  Low Cell Temp C: 0  High Die Temp C: 15
Low Temperature Restriction
Power Control: 29
Regen Control: 29
Status: 1000   Charger LED Status: 10
0 3918 1 3922 2 3916 3 3918 4 3922 5 3880 
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0 3919 1 3918 2 3920 3 3919 4 3920 5 3917 
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0 2 4  Voltage Diff Min-Max: 150
High Cell: 3922V Module: 0 Cell: 1  Low Cell: 3772V Module: 4 Cell: 4
Total Voltage: 422873
High Cell Temp C: 11  Low Cell Temp C: 8  High Die Temp C: 15
Low Temperature Restriction
Power Control: 88
Regen Control: 88
Status: 1000   Charger LED Status: 10
High Cell: 3937V Module: 1 Cell: 3  Low Cell: 3756V Module: 4 Cell: 4
Total Voltage: 422808
High Cell Temp C: 11  Low Cell Temp C: 8  High Die Temp C: 16
Low Temperature Restriction

bexander · Post by **bexander** » Sun Oct 27, 2024 11:44 am

evdc wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 4:27 pm Hello, I was able to run the test code that you sent me and I compared the series output of the two codes and I think I understood what the main error is.

That sounds great. Please, share what the error was so I and others can learn from it.

evdc · Post by **evdc** » Sun Oct 27, 2024 12:14 pm

bexander wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2024 11:44 am That sounds great. Please, share what the error was so I and others can learn from it.

I haven't solved the problem yet, but I noticed that the lowest cell in the code you sent me is in 14 modules, and in the code I'm using, the lowest cell is in the 5th module and I think that the problem lies somewhere in there.

bexander · Post by **bexander** » Sun Oct 27, 2024 3:39 pm

Quite some difference between storeCellVoltage:
My version:

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void storeCellVoltage(uint8_t dataRegister, uint8_t readRegisterData[(2*numberOfSlaves + 5)]) 
{	
	for(int i=0; i<numberOfSlaves; i++)
	{
		uint16_t measVoltage = ((readRegisterData[(2*numberOfSlaves + 1) - i*2] << 8) + readRegisterData[(2*numberOfSlaves) - i*2]);
		measVoltage = (measVoltage >> 2) * (uint32_t)5000 / 0x3FFF;
		cellVoltage[i*numberOfCellsPerSlave + (dataRegister - 0x20)] = measVoltage;
	}
}

Your:

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void storeCellVoltage(uint8_t dataRegister, uint8_t readRegisterData[29])
{
  uint8_t cellNumberOffset = dataRegister - 0x20;
  //Serial.println(cellNumberOffset);

  for (int i = 0; i < NumModulesFound; i++)
  {
    uint32_t measVoltage = ((readRegisterData[3 + (i * 2)] << 6) + (readRegisterData[2 + (i * 2)] >> 2));
    measVoltage = (measVoltage * 5000) / 16383;
    cellVoltageNew[i][cellNumberOffset] = measVoltage;

    // Serial.println("");
    // Serial.println(dataRegister);
    // Serial.println(measVoltage);
    // Serial.println("");
  }
}

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uint16_t measVoltage = ((readRegisterData[(2*numberOfSlaves + 1) - i*2] << 8) + readRegisterData[(2*numberOfSlaves) - i*2]);

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uint32_t measVoltage = ((readRegisterData[3 + (i * 2)] << 6) + (readRegisterData[2 + (i * 2)] >> 2));

evdc · Post by **evdc** » Mon Oct 28, 2024 7:05 am

bexander wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2024 3:39 pm Quite some difference between storeCellVoltage:
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void storeCellVoltage(uint8_t dataRegister, uint8_t readRegisterData[(2*numberOfSlaves + 5)]) 
{	
	for(int i=0; i<numberOfSlaves; i++)
	{
		uint16_t measVoltage = ((readRegisterData[(2*numberOfSlaves + 1) - i*2] << 8) + readRegisterData[(2*numberOfSlaves) - i*2]);
		measVoltage = (measVoltage >> 2) * (uint32_t)5000 / 0x3FFF;
		cellVoltage[i*numberOfCellsPerSlave + (dataRegister - 0x20)] = measVoltage;
	}
}

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void storeCellVoltage(uint8_t dataRegister, uint8_t readRegisterData[29])
{
  uint8_t cellNumberOffset = dataRegister - 0x20;
  //Serial.println(cellNumberOffset);

  for (int i = 0; i < NumModulesFound; i++)
  {
    uint32_t measVoltage = ((readRegisterData[3 + (i * 2)] << 6) + (readRegisterData[2 + (i * 2)] >> 2));
    measVoltage = (measVoltage * 5000) / 16383;
    cellVoltageNew[i][cellNumberOffset] = measVoltage;

    // Serial.println("");
    // Serial.println(dataRegister);
    // Serial.println(measVoltage);
    // Serial.println("");
  }
}

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uint16_t measVoltage = ((readRegisterData[(2*numberOfSlaves + 1) - i*2] << 8) + readRegisterData[(2*numberOfSlaves) - i*2]);

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uint32_t measVoltage = ((readRegisterData[3 + (i * 2)] << 6) + (readRegisterData[2 + (i * 2)] >> 2));

Thank you very much for your help @bexander, that was the main problem!
Best regards

Bratitude · Post by **Bratitude** » Wed Dec 04, 2024 12:32 am

manny wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:04 pm
Also made a board to fit in a waterproof housing

20231105_123553.jpg

Do have you have the gerber and bom for this?

manny · Post by **manny** » Wed Dec 04, 2024 7:42 am

Sure.

Will put it on GitHub and post a link. Hopefully have some time to do this tonight.

manny · Post by **manny** » Wed Dec 04, 2024 9:13 pm

ist up

https://github.com/Manny-electric/e208_BMS

AmeldePamel · Post by **AmeldePamel** » Thu Dec 12, 2024 11:58 am

bigmotherwhale wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:28 pm tidy setup, do you have contactor control on that board? I think this will need to be changed to reflect the number of modules and whether they are series / parallel

if((batteryVoltage > 300) && (compareVoltage > batteryVoltage) && (millis() - lastMillisContactor > 500))

I also found a thread on here where someone had done a similar thing to this code, it might be worth having a look, search for "MAX_Teensy_1.2"

Im interfacing with an all in one BMS with the CMUs onboard, using as much existing hardware as possible.

I realised my current sensor is only a single sensor not with high and low, and also I need an additional contactor and economizer control as well as a canbus signal from the inverter to determine voltage, so im trying to work out what I need to change in the code.

Hello. It looks like you use the original board from Kefico? What have you added to the board? Is it possible to read the CAN with these additinal boards?

bigmotherwhale · Post by **bigmotherwhale** » Thu Dec 12, 2024 5:04 pm

AmeldePamel wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 11:58 am Hello. It looks like you use the original board from Kefico? What have you added to the board? Is it possible to read the CAN with these additinal boards?

I have read the stock BMS with a elm327 and a smartphone app, but the Arduino i have crudely patched into the hardware disables the onboard micro.
It should be easy to read the battery voltages and temp through the one of the CAN ports on there, i think there are two channels. Try looking for a pinout, you just need 12v, GND and IGN, and of course the can connection, if my memory serves me well.

AmeldePamel · Post by **AmeldePamel** » Fri Dec 13, 2024 3:04 pm

bigmotherwhale wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 5:04 pm I have read the stock BMS with a elm327 and a smartphone app, but the Arduino i have crudely patched into the hardware disables the onboard micro.
It should be easy to read the battery voltages and temp through the one of the CAN ports on there, i think there are two channels. Try looking for a pinout, you just need 12v, GND and IGN, and of course the can connection, if my memory serves me well.

That was my opinion as well, to easy read the CAN-port. But no such luck..

wprzybyla · Post by **wprzybyla** » Fri Dec 20, 2024 6:10 pm

maciek16c wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:09 am I think it should be possible to use stock BMS. Looks like a lot of CAN messages are the same or similar between different Hyundai / Kia models and i have Hyundai Santa-Fe PHEV battery working using Savvycan script or zombieverter (there are still some obd-2 errors, but probably not critical)

Will the Zombieverter be compatible with a battery from a Kia Ceed PHEV (96 cells, 8.9 kWh)?

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