[DRIVING] 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE

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Hi Gregski,

For my project I was figuring out which batteries would be suitable. Initially I didn't give the BMW batteries much attention since they seemed to be cooled by direct refrigerant cooling. Later on I found out (this post and your YouTube video's -> very helpful, thanks!!) that you use/going to use them without cooling.

What are your idea's on thermal management at this point? Do you limit the current in and out of the batteries to avoid overheating? As an alternative to refrigerant cooling I was thinking about using heat pipes to cool the batteries, but that is only a rough idea.

Thanks!
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Gregski wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 2:06 pm I heard good things about this Mercedes pump and all it takes is two wires, + and - and it just runs.
Looks like a good option; I'll keep an eye out for them. If I had to guess, it's probably a variant of the same pump they sell to VAG/Porsche.
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Sjanders wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 1:57 pm Hi Gregski,

For my project I was figuring out which batteries would be suitable. Initially I didn't give the BMW batteries much attention since they seemed to be cooled by direct refrigerant cooling. Later on I found out (this post and your YouTube video's -> very helpful, thanks!!) that you use/going to use them without cooling.

What are your idea's on thermal management at this point? Do you limit the current in and out of the batteries to avoid overheating? As an alternative to refrigerant cooling I was thinking about using heat pipes to cool the batteries, but that is only a rough idea.

Thanks!

Thank you for the kind words, yeah these batteries are amazeballs and I thank our friend Artur and his Jaguar XJR for turning me on to them! Well I highly doubt Netherlands gets hotter than Northern California where I drive my truck, and I use nothing but air to cool mine, going on second year / summer of driving (just over 1,600 miles on the clock so far). I do not have mine in a box though cause my truck is a fairweather vehicle so maybe that helps keep 'em cool(er). Conversely Artur lives on the opposite end of the country and has put the Jag and these BMW batteries through the test of their winters, also no heat or coolant running through them. Hope this helps.

Top Tip: Hold out for the second gen (SP41) battery packs which BMW introduced in July of 2019 as they are of larger capacity.

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Ghia66 wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:45 am Your fuse and relay setup is so neat! Well jell!
thank you, I really feel more comfortable now knowing what each and every fuse does (now if I could only remember what they do six months from now)


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alright, everything is done, connected, etc. Now What? Well let's go through the start up sequence sorta speak, for safety purposes the high voltage pack is still disconnected (just one of the leads to the Safety Box, negative in my case I think), so first we just see what the laptop can see with the VCU just getting permanent power

Is the FaryLink WiFi network being advertised?

Can we bring up the Huebner web page?


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alright.... finally

It's Alive! Electric VW Rabbit




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Super excited for this. When doing road testing please do current limit for 5kw and 10kw output to see if one can get usable power out of a small battery pack
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Keo wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 2:26 pm Super excited for this. When doing road testing please do current limit for 5kw and 10kw output to see if one can get usable power out of a small battery pack

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Gregski wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:39 pm alright.... finally

It's Alive! Electric VW Rabbit




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A long Late night Path, but Well done..
.. Super Interesting and I hear some Fireworks and other Celebrations may be forthcoming to acknowledge your 4th of July work .😉
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Everyone: So Greg when are you gonna drive this thing?

Me: well when the floor of my garage drops below napalm so I can crawl under it and secure the high voltage lines with some quality Cardboard Freight zip ties


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There should be no Lithium battery cool temperature complications.!
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I'm uncomfortable celebrating by the inches here. What is this, a celebration for ants? We are being trained to underwhelm ourselves.

Let's get this sumbitch rollin' so we celebrate the success all at once!

Do a burnout!
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MattsAwesomeStuff wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 7:40 pm I'm uncomfortable celebrating by the inches here. What is this, a celebration for ants? We are being trained to underwhelm ourselves.

Let's get this sumbitch rollin' so we celebrate the success all at once!

Do a burnout!

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Nice One.... Great Stuff.😀😎
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Gregski wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:16 pm DIY EV VW Rabbit First Drive

Did you really say start to FINISH??????

Surely it should be start to PRESENT?

Great going tho mate, well done, only kidding. ;)
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"Do a burnout"

*rolls 1 carlength forward at 2mph*

...

I guess the visitors to Good Enuff Garage will take what we can get.

She's a'rollin', and not just downhill. That counts. And she's like, fused up, VCU'd up, safetyboxed, has seats in her, a foward/reverse switch that doesn't involve undoing marettes. Soon she'll be registered, insured, and driving down the highway on top of a rollback.

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MattsAwesomeStuff wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 5:59 am "Do a burnout"

*rolls 1 carlength forward at 2mph*

...

I guess the visitors to Good Enuff Garage will take what we can get.

She's a'rollin', and not just downhill. That counts. And she's like, fused up, VCU'd up, safetyboxed, has seats in her, a foward/reverse switch that doesn't involve undoing marettes. Soon she'll be registered, insured, and driving down the highway on top of a rollback.

Happy Fireworks Day
ha ha, you must have missed the wide open charger port door latch thingie causing drag and slowing her down

she's already registered and insured, all we need to do is persuade her to charge, the Zombie thinks we're charging but there's no amps going into the pack, I suspect the Control Pilot signal
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thank you all for trying to help, please know I am not being defiant, I am going to the garage as often as the heat will allow it

last night I realized that despite of what Nigel says, some things are not better at 11, so chargerized the brand new expensive regular "12 volt" car battery to 13

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Gregski wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 12:48 am when the floor of my garage drops below napalm
Ooof and I was complaining about the upper 90s here in NC! (though to be fair its also upper 90%s for humidity here)
Gregski wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 12:48 am Cardboard Freight
I call it Horrible Freight, but same difference
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P.S.Mangelsdorf wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 4:54 pm Ooof and I was complaining about the upper 90s here in NC! (though to be fair its also upper 90%s for humidity here)
A ‘potentially historic’ heat wave intensifies along the West Coast, as dangerous wildfires spread

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Gregski wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 6:29 am ha ha, you must have missed the wide open charger port door latch thingie causing drag and slowing her down

she's already registered and insured, all we need to do is persuade her to charge, the Zombie thinks we're charging but there's no amps going into the pack, I suspect the Control Pilot signal
Wowser the heat sounds unbelievable!
When you have time would you please consider doing a guide on the Outlander charger? 😊🤞
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Ghia66 wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:25 am Wowser the heat sounds unbelievable!
When you have time would you please consider doing a guide on the Outlander charger? 😊🤞
There is a full thread on the Outlander charger in the Mitsubishi section.
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Bratitude wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:48 pm Post your prams!
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