Nissan eNV200 Motor Swap into Proton Jumbuck

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Nissan eNV200 Motor Swap into Proton Jumbuck

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Ok, so the last few days I've been reading like a mad man until I stumbled upon this project. You little beauty.

Anyway, I have a 2008 Proton Jumbuck and a 2014 Nissan eNV200 that I intend to meld together, my original intent going into this project was "Yeah I'll just pull the motor and batteries, plug them together, grab an aftermarket ECU, wire that up, tick some boxes on some software like any other engine swap, get the tick in the box from the certifier and she'll be right"

Yeah, don't think it will be that simple, I've searched high and low and everywhere in between until I stumbled upon this project.

Anyways, I've been playing with combustion engines for years, however considering it now costs me $120 a fortnight to drive to work and back, and the fact that I have plentiful electrickery falling from the sky and being collected by my solar panels, I am generally getting around $40/month back from the electrickery provider. Sweet.

Anyways, when I came across the Nissan Leaf Gen2 Board at https://openinverter.org/wiki/Nissan_Leaf_Gen2_Board I was wondering will this work in the eNV200? Does this mean I can swap out this board, wire the stuff in that I need to, and then just hit the key and off I go?
  • I currently DO NOT have an electronic throttle, can I set this up to just use any throttle I want?
  • Although I do not technically need to by law, it's been heavily suggested to me elsewhere that when Regen activates, that I set this up for the brake lights to come on, is this board capable of doing so?
  • The recipient car is not a push button car, it's a key, how does this board activate/deactivate? Is it a simple "Key to On, wait for 20 seconds, and go" or is it able to be "Key to on, count to 5, hit start to join the main contactors, then drive"?
  • Can this board drive gauges/instrument cluster, or will I have to come up with another way of doing so? I'm not sure 100% on what data feeds to where with what. Most of the stuff in this recipient car is mechanical or "Dumb" electric (Whereby it's voltages and resistances), so a new dash will be required.
If this will do what I want, I fully intend to grab the fully supported version from https://openinverter.org/shop/index.php ... duct_id=53 as although I now look across the landscape and I'm seeing bunches of cheap Leaf's (Leaves?) around and many many people that could use an electrical car, I wanted to build my own to see how easy a conversion is. I've already had great interest from people at work that are like "Yeah man, I only have my old beater for work and back, we have the partners car for long trips" and so there is genuine interest.

But I'm getting ahead of myself here.

I also note that the product page says:
This replacement board has been reported to achieve 136kW with the stock hardware and achieves a 0-100 time of 6.7s in a Toyota GT86
Was this with any special programming? Or is it a straight up bolt in and off you go thing?

Sorry if this is a lot of poorly phrased questions or if I haven't looked everywhere, my brain is a tad fried at the moment from reading bucketloads of stuff everywhere else and I've managed to get myself a bit mixed up with who does what and how "Plug and Play" the solution is.

Thanks in advance everyone!
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Re: Nissan eNV200 Motor Swap into Proton Jumbuck

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Scotty274 wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:01 am Anyways, when I came across the Nissan Leaf Gen2 Board at https://openinverter.org/wiki/Nissan_Leaf_Gen2_Board I was wondering will this work in the eNV200? Does this mean I can swap out this board, wire the stuff in that I need to, and then just hit the key and off I go?
Not sure - maybe someone else here knows.
  • I currently DO NOT have an electronic throttle, can I set this up to just use any throttle I want?
    Yes.
  • Although I do not technically need to by law, it's been heavily suggested to me elsewhere that when Regen activates, that I set this up for the brake lights to come on, is this board capable of doing so?
    Yes.
  • The recipient car is not a push button car, it's a key, how does this board activate/deactivate? Is it a simple "Key to On, wait for 20 seconds, and go" or is it able to be "Key to on, count to 5, hit start to join the main contactors, then drive"?
    The latter - inverter control board handles precharge and start signal.
  • Can this board drive gauges/instrument cluster, or will I have to come up with another way of doing so? I'm not sure 100% on what data feeds to where with what. Most of the stuff in this recipient car is mechanical or "Dumb" electric (Whereby it's voltages and resistances), so a new dash will be required.
    There's 1 PWM output which can control one of the 'dumb' gauges, an Arduino can control the others with some work.
If this will do what I want, I fully intend to grab the fully supported version from https://openinverter.org/shop/index.php ... duct_id=53 as although I now look across the landscape and I'm seeing bunches of cheap Leaf's (Leaves?) around and many many people that could use an electrical car, I wanted to build my own to see how easy a conversion is. I've already had great interest from people at work that are like "Yeah man, I only have my old beater for work and back, we have the partners car for long trips" and so there is genuine interest.

But I'm getting ahead of myself here.

I also note that the product page says:
This replacement board has been reported to achieve 136kW with the stock hardware and achieves a 0-100 time of 6.7s in a Toyota GT86
Was this with any special programming? Or is it a straight up bolt in and off you go thing?
There's usually quite a bit of work - plug it in, test, test some more, maybe a bit of config changes, but the Leaf motor is popular = well supported.

Sorry if this is a lot of poorly phrased questions or if I haven't looked everywhere, my brain is a tad fried at the moment from reading bucketloads of stuff everywhere else and I've managed to get myself a bit mixed up with who does what and how "Plug and Play" the solution is.

Thanks in advance everyone!
AFAIK the eNV200 has the same drivetrain as the Leaf -- so it should work properly. But you'll probably want to find some more info - maybe compare serial numbers etc.
Good luck!

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Re: Nissan eNV200 Motor Swap into Proton Jumbuck

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Scotty274 wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:01 am I currently DO NOT have an electronic throttle, can I set this up to just use any throttle I want?
Yes.
Scotty274 wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:01 am Although I do not technically need to by law, it's been heavily suggested to me elsewhere that when Regen activates, that I set this up for the brake lights to come on, is this board capable of doing so?
Yes, though the most practical setup to have faint regen (say like off throttle in 2nd gear with a petrol engine) when off throttle and to have stronger regen when pressing the brake pedal - which will make the brake lights come on anyway.
Scotty274 wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:01 am The recipient car is not a push button car, it's a key, how does this board activate/deactivate? Is it a simple "Key to On, wait for 20 seconds, and go" or is it able to be "Key to on, count to 5, hit start to join the main contactors, then drive"?
It has a dedicated start input
Scotty274 wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:01 am Can this board drive gauges/instrument cluster, or will I have to come up with another way of doing so? I'm not sure 100% on what data feeds to where with what. Most of the stuff in this recipient car is mechanical or "Dumb" electric (Whereby it's voltages and resistances), so a new dash will be required.
It can drive one analog temp gauge.

The challenge with Nissans original wire harness is that it doesn't bring out all pins. I think people have managed to add extra wires but I don't remember exactly how.
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