Classic Mini, outlander rdu

[tom91]

Doing that many battery locations/boxes is a nightmare for wiring up a BMS to monitor all the cells.

Also leaf cells are not the best.

Best to decide if you care about your rear bench seat or will put your battery box there, it is the easiest place to put it. also the best weight location wise. You could always do the Opto route and put a BMW PHEV pack repackaged in the boot.

It is you first build so best to try and keep thing simple.

[Jacobsmess]

I agree with Tom, as a serial over complicator myself I've talked myself out of multiple battery boxes and may well just end up getting an OEM pack and mounting the whole thing. Battery boxes are probably the most complicated part of a conversion and also the highest risk, keeping them simple is key. You can also swap a less than ideal battery pack for something batter in the future, and given the rate of innovation and drive in pack technology it might also prove easier in the future.

[PEDR0]

Doing that many battery locations/boxes is a nightmare for wiring up a BMS to monitor all the cells.

Also leaf cells are not the best.

Best to decide if you care about your rear bench seat or will put your battery box there, it is the easiest place to put it. also the best weight location wise. You could always do the Opto route and put a BMW PHEV pack repackaged in the boot.

It is you first build so best to try and keep thing simple.

thanks tom, would a 530e battery pack be good enough to get me up and running, i guess once its up and running and through dvla i could look at other options

[Jacobsmess]

would a 530e battery pack be good enough to get me up and running,

Yes and for a mini will probably get you about 50-60 miles relatively comfortably.

[Turbopete]

Any welding or drilling done to the mini body will invalidate your V5 if the DVLA check your vehicle. This had happened to @turbopete

Was that the opto mini, what did they fail it on, did they allow it to be corrected??

It was the Opto Mini (My mini) - they failed it on "allegedly" having 6 8mm holes in the floor of the spare wheel well. I didn't get any pre warning or explanation, they just deleted the reg from the DVLA database - no MOT record no Tax record nothing.

I wasnt allowed to see the report or officially be told why it had failed. Eventually the guy on the end of the phone implied what the problem might be.

I told them that there were no holes in the boot floor - i had merely glued the plates and bolt heads in place. It went off to a higher level and eventually (i believe) because they had no evidence of actual holes it was re-inspected. The same insurance assessor came as the first time - he didn't know why he had to inspect again and once again couldn't tell me any of the things he had been told to look at!

Obviously when they inspected the 2nd time there were no holes anywhere in the monocoque - and i mean non at all!

Then i got the logbook back - correctly issued as electric!

[Uppertown]

That would mean 21 units, there’s potential for for 10/12 in the floor, 6/8 in the front and to keep the weight about right i would need 8 in the boot. This would raise the net weight of the mini by around 120 kg

Splitting the battery into 3 adds complication and potential failure points. Do you really need the back seat?? If you're prepared to sacrifice the rear seat you'll have room for a full set of modules which would also simplify the BMS. What year is your bodyshell? pre 76 minis had more (factory) holes in the rear bulkhead etc.

[PEDR0]

It was the Opto Mini (My mini) - they failed it on "allegedly" having 6 8mm holes in the floor of the spare wheel well. I didn't get any pre warning or explanation, they just deleted the reg from the DVLA database - no MOT record no Tax record nothing.

I wasnt allowed to see the report or officially be told why it had failed. Eventually the guy on the end of the phone implied what the problem might be.

I told them that there were no holes in the boot floor - i had merely glued the plates and bolt heads in place. It went off to a higher level and eventually (i believe) because they had no evidence of actual holes it was re-inspected. The same insurance assessor came as the first time - he didn't know why he had to inspect again and once again couldn't tell me any of the things he had been told to look at!

Obviously when they inspected the 2nd time there were no holes anywhere in the monocoque - and i mean non at all!

Then i got the logbook back - correctly issued as electric!

iglad you got it sorted pete, i think its crazy that they won't let you drill and bolt something properly but its fine to glue/bond bits together. like the one i mentioned earlier in the post, someone got pinged for drilling a cable through the battery box yet you can buy a battery box with holes already in. crazy

[PEDR0]

Splitting the battery into 3 adds complication and potential failure points. Do you really need the back seat?? If you're prepared to sacrifice the rear seat you'll have room for a full set of modules which would also simplify the BMS. What year is your bodyshell? pre 76 minis had more (factory) holes in the rear bulkhead etc.

i have an 89 and a 96 at the minute. thinking of getting an older one though