LOVE the gauge but don't seem able to get them to work...just blank screen!!!?Gregski wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 11:29 pm OK, so got the charging workings, yes all by myself, by simply following exactly precisely the steps from the boys on Mr. Damien Maguire's best kept secret Discord Server which you can get access to by supporting him on EVBMW Damien Maguire where you can show your support for him creating Open Source Electric Vehicle Projects!
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The Zombie will go into Charge mode without the Control Pilot signal connected and even without the J1772 hair dryer plug plugged into the charge port, so just be aware of this.
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One way to tell if the CAN communication is working is to look for some charger Spot Values such as charger temp and U12V (U=Volts) and I12V (I=amps) which tell you the DC-DC converter part of the charger is charging the regular 12v car battery.
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That's Level 2 charging which just means at 240 volts
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It don't have to be the Science of Rockets, here I am just using a regular clothes dryer outlet that i added an extension to, and we converted our clothes dryer from electric to gas, so this is always available
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[DRIVING] 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE
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Thanks, got them to work!
They are such a great feature!![😊](//cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/twitter/twemoji@latest/assets/svg/1f60a.svg)
They are such a great feature!
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DIY EV VW Rabbit First Public Charging
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Re: [DRIVING] 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE
Nice One, and the Free charger was Free of other Evs ![😃](//cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/twitter/twemoji@latest/assets/svg/1f603.svg)
Re: [DRIVING] 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE
Living the dream! How is the power compared to the truck?
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short answer: "fine"
pre first cup of coffee morning brain answer:
that is a very interesting question because, both vehicles are only using one motor at this time (aka Phase I of the project) and the Rabbit weighs half what the truck weighs [Note To Self: take the Rabbit in today to the Truck Stop to get it officially weighed]. and per the Wiki it's OEM 1.6L diesel was rated at 40 kW or 53 horse power and now it has a 3rd Gen Toyota Prius motor rated at 60 kW or 80 horse power, though I don't know if that is just for MG2 or both motors combined [Second Note To Self: call Professor Kelly of Weber Auto to confirm] so it's like comparing apples and bowling balls
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I suppose you'll be blaming me when the cheapest nastiest with the worst reviews on Amazon Android head unit runs like a dog and fails to connect to anything.
Fair enough!
Fair enough!
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NATURALLY !!! It is 10" though and [ahem] yours was only 7
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So let's talk charging so I can tell you what you already know
so I am getting braverer and braverer as I charge this dinky 2018 BMW 330e PHEV battery pack, which consists of 5 modules and 80 cells (16 cells per module)
DISCLOSURE: I happen to have some BMW 530e battery specs for the battery pack code name SP06 but I don't have any for the 330e so some maths were involved to come up with the table adaptation
yes this would be more better with some more decimals, but I'm just spit ballin' here
below is one of the five modules with it's 16 cells holding hands nicely in a row
so I am getting braverer and braverer as I charge this dinky 2018 BMW 330e PHEV battery pack, which consists of 5 modules and 80 cells (16 cells per module)
DISCLOSURE: I happen to have some BMW 530e battery specs for the battery pack code name SP06 but I don't have any for the 330e so some maths were involved to come up with the table adaptation
PACK | MODULE | CELL | COMMENT |
331v | 66v | 4.14v | Max |
327v | 65v | 4.08v | My Goal |
320v | 64v | 4.00v | Next Set Point |
310v | 62v | 3.87v | Current Charge Limit |
300v | 60v | 3.75v | 1st Charge |
292v | 58v | 3.65v | Nominal |
224v | 45v | 2.80v | Min |
yes this would be more better with some more decimals, but I'm just spit ballin' here
below is one of the five modules with it's 16 cells holding hands nicely in a row
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Re: [DRIVING] 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE
Just a thought preceded by a question?
Could you mount a bmw 330e battery pack upside down?
If you could then there might be a cute way of doubling battery capacity!?
Could you mount a bmw 330e battery pack upside down?
If you could then there might be a cute way of doubling battery capacity!?
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great question and I recon you can, more smarterer folks can correct me if I am wrong but them cells and electronics don't care which side is up
what I have found is that you go through Confidence Phases or Levels as you go through your EV Conversion process and there is a big difference in converting your first vs your second but even on the first one here's what went through my head
Phase I aka Pimple Faced Youth
- will not open an OEM battery pack no need
- I'm just gonna mount the entire whole OEM batter pack in or under my "_____________"
- how much is a Hyper9 motor anyway? damn that's expensive
- can I just take everything out of a Leaf and shove it in my shit box and make it work?
- wish I had a fork lift so they could freight ship that to me
Phase IV aka Def Con Four
- OK hear me out if I just work on the pack one handed I can safely pop it open and just take a peak inside
- look I'm wearing a rubber wedding band things will be fine
- well while I'm in here might as well peak inside the contactor box and see if I can manipulate it with a car battery, where did I put my jumper cables
Phase VIII - Vee Eye Eye Eye
- I'ma gonna use this chain hoist off this willow tree to lift this battery pack up while I cut it open with an acetylene torch and shoot a video of it (somebody hold my cat)
- stupid OEM terminals, I'mma gonna cut them off and weld my own up to the LiFePO4 battery module, and as long as I cover it with a wet paper towel it will be ok
....
Phase Platinum Pro Plus Enterprise Version
- screw it, I'm moving to Ireland
I think Artur K has been running his BMW BHEV batteris upside down for nearly 3 years now in his gorgeous Jaguar XJR
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Re: [DRIVING] 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE
Cells should not be mounted upside down. this can create electrolyte leakage through the vent, and when venting it dumps the electrolyte instead of venting pressure which can lead to even more dangerous situations. Cells should only be mounted upright or on the modules long side.
Re: [DRIVING] 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE
Oh! So I’m really in a pickle… live in Ireland, practically in the next field to the block tackle willow tree powered workshop and being tutored on Open Education tutorials by a two timer (EVs that is) educator living in AmericaGregski wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2024 4:35 pm great question and I recon you can, more smarterer folks can correct me if I am wrong but them cells and electronics don't care which side is up
what I have found is that you go through Confidence Phases or Levels as you go through your EV Conversion process and there is a big difference in converting your first vs your second but even on the first one here's what went through my head
Phase I aka Pimple Faced YouthPhase II aka Got To Second Base with Molly Griswold finally
- will not open an OEM battery pack no need
- I'm just gonna mount the entire whole OEM batter pack in or under my "_____________"
- how much is a Hyper9 motor anyway? damn that's expensive
...
- can I just take everything out of a Leaf and shove it in my shit box and make it work?
- wish I had a fork lift so they could freight ship that to me
Phase IV aka Def Con Four...
- OK hear me out if I just work on the pack one handed I can safely pop it open and just take a peak inside
- look I'm wearing a rubber wedding band things will be fine
- well while I'm in here might as well peak inside the contactor box and see if I can manipulate it with a car battery, where did I put my jumper cables
Phase VIII - Vee Eye Eye Eye
- I'ma gonna use this chain hoist off this willow tree to lift this battery pack up while I cut it open with an acetylene torch and shoot a video of it (somebody hold my cat)
- stupid OEM terminals, I'mma gonna cut them off and weld my own up to the LiFePO4 battery module, and as long as I cover it with a wet paper towel it will be ok
....
Phase Platinum Pro Plus Enterprise Version
- screw it, I'm moving to Ireland
Re: [DRIVING] 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE
Thanks for this…so a no!!tom91 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2024 4:53 pm Cells should not be mounted upside down. this can create electrolyte leakage through the vent, and when venting it dumps the electrolyte instead of venting pressure which can lead to even more dangerous situations. Cells should only be mounted upright or on the modules long side.
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At my previous firm, I had an agreement with a coworker that; if I didn't show up on a Monday and there was nothing on my calendar indicating I planned to be out, she should call the sheriff for a wellness check and tell them to start with the garage.Gregski wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2024 4:35 pm Phase VIII - Vee Eye Eye Eye
I'ma gonna use this chain hoist off this willow tree to lift this battery pack up while I cut it open with an acetylene torch and shoot a video of it (somebody hold my cat)
stupid OEM terminals, I'mma gonna cut them off and weld my own up to the LiFePO4 battery module, and as long as I cover it with a wet paper towel it will be ok
Now I work remotely and I'm basically my own boss, so unless I have a client meeting scheduled no one's going to notice I'm missing... which is a bit concerning... so yeah I'm a bit more careful now.
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Best god Dayum ev related literature iv read all monthGregski wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2024 4:35 pm
[*]how much is a Hyper9 motor anyway? damn that's expensive
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Phase II aka Got To Second Base with Molly Griswold finally
can I just take everything out of a Leaf and shove it in my shit box and make it work?
I'ma gonna use this chain hoist off this willow tree to lift this battery pack up while I cut it open with an acetylene torch and shoot a video of it (somebody hold my cat)
stupid OEM terminals, I'mma gonna cut them off and weld my own up to the LiFePO4 battery module, and as long as I cover it with a wet paper towel it will be ok
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Seems Irish mentality *somehow* got imported to Germany
Just wondering about venting - obvious for prismatic, but how do pouches vent? Got 1/2 of the VW modules mounted upside down but they are pouches inside of the modules
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Just wondering about venting - obvious for prismatic, but how do pouches vent? Got 1/2 of the VW modules mounted upside down but they are pouches inside of the modules
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Pouches enclosed in alu box do not vent in case of thermal runaway. They burn with at least 500K!
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Data i have seen shows pouches are really sensitive at voltages above 4V per cell. If they are less than 3.6V they are not dangerous.
The problem at which also Mr. Munroe touched is the cell pairing inside ID cells that i have in Mazda and i guess you have in Touran. If for some reason one of the cells would become shorted the whole burden would fall on the other cell in a pair. This would drop the cell fast and started to heat in up under load. What you want is good temp management with that so that BMS can catch that kind of cell damage before thermal runaway.
I had this happen in Peugeot when i was in Croatia. Of course i charged at 40kW without any cooling!!! Luckily BMS triped and saved me. I had to circumvent that 8S2P cell pack in a parking lot to be able to return home or else there would be fire...
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The Professor has melted my brain in a good way! So much torque and methinks welding planetary gears could be a very tempting thing!Gregski wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2024 2:44 pm short answer: "fine"
pre first cup of coffee morning brain answer:
that is a very interesting question because, both vehicles are only using one motor at this time (aka Phase I of the project) and the Rabbit weighs half what the truck weighs [Note To Self: take the Rabbit in today to the Truck Stop to get it officially weighed]. and per the Wiki it's OEM 1.6L diesel was rated at 40 kW or 53 horse power and now it has a 3rd Gen Toyota Prius motor rated at 60 kW or 80 horse power, though I don't know if that is just for MG2 or both motors combined [Second Note To Self: call Professor Kelly of Weber Auto to confirm] so it's like comparing apples and bowling balls
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