Nissan Can translator to analog outputs for old cluster - Is there any?
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Nissan Can translator to analog outputs for old cluster - Is there any?
Hi,
Using oem hardware on my "conversion" (but it should work the same for people using any other combo that uses can)
i am looking for a solution to control the analog instrument cluster using the can signals from the oem nissan vcu.
I know kinghorn ev did it in their conversion but are not interesred in sellin/helping.
I can see a few for sale to control radio and alarms but the more advanced ones cost more than my car
http://www.vboxaustralia.com.au/dac01.html
https://en.racelogic.support/VBOX_Autom ... gue_Module
https://www.lingenfelter.com/product/L460260704.html
https://www.accuratetechnologies.com/Products/CANverter
https://jv-technoton.com/products/mastercan-dac/
https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/10050037 ... pt=glo2bra
https://shop.nikutronics.eu/CAN-Bus-Modul-M-CAN
https://wibutec-shop.com/CAN-Bus-Interf ... auf-analog
https://www.speedtech.sk/product/7539/c ... an-box-uni
https://www.ebay.com/itm/290380683682
https://www.directindustry.com/prod/mak ... 72885.html
How are you guys controlling your instrument cluster / dashboard on conversions ?
Using oem hardware on my "conversion" (but it should work the same for people using any other combo that uses can)
i am looking for a solution to control the analog instrument cluster using the can signals from the oem nissan vcu.
I know kinghorn ev did it in their conversion but are not interesred in sellin/helping.
I can see a few for sale to control radio and alarms but the more advanced ones cost more than my car
http://www.vboxaustralia.com.au/dac01.html
https://en.racelogic.support/VBOX_Autom ... gue_Module
https://www.lingenfelter.com/product/L460260704.html
https://www.accuratetechnologies.com/Products/CANverter
https://jv-technoton.com/products/mastercan-dac/
https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/10050037 ... pt=glo2bra
https://shop.nikutronics.eu/CAN-Bus-Modul-M-CAN
https://wibutec-shop.com/CAN-Bus-Interf ... auf-analog
https://www.speedtech.sk/product/7539/c ... an-box-uni
https://www.ebay.com/itm/290380683682
https://www.directindustry.com/prod/mak ... 72885.html
How are you guys controlling your instrument cluster / dashboard on conversions ?
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Re: Nissan Can translator to analog outputs for old cluster - Is there any?
In my first conversion (Polo) I ran the temp gauge with PWM from inverter and check engine with open collector output from inverter. The fuel gauge with PWM from BMS.
In Touran I run the fuel gauge with PWM using SoC from Leaf BMS and rev counter via CAN with speed from inverter (https://github.com/jsphuebner/stm32-car). Also the temp gauge and various lights.
In Zapateros Subaru we will run temp/fuel gauge with PWM and speedo (could have also run rev counter) with variable frequency square wave, all from ZombieVerter.
It's all not very hard to implement, any CAN enabled Arduino can hack it. Or STM32 e.g. starting at stm32-template https://github.com/jsphuebner/stm32-template
In Touran I run the fuel gauge with PWM using SoC from Leaf BMS and rev counter via CAN with speed from inverter (https://github.com/jsphuebner/stm32-car). Also the temp gauge and various lights.
In Zapateros Subaru we will run temp/fuel gauge with PWM and speedo (could have also run rev counter) with variable frequency square wave, all from ZombieVerter.
It's all not very hard to implement, any CAN enabled Arduino can hack it. Or STM32 e.g. starting at stm32-template https://github.com/jsphuebner/stm32-template
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Re: Nissan Can translator to analog outputs for old cluster - Is there any?
Before I started my conversion I spent weeks playing with the CAN to control the dash. I haven't implemented any of that yet as the conversion is on going but I'm confident it can be done. Maybe forget about converting the signals from the Nissan VCU and control it directly.
I need a bigger hammer!
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Re: Nissan Can translator to analog outputs for old cluster - Is there any?
You're not likley to find a generic controller as all cars/manufacturers are differant my Z3 is a mix of analog and canbus and I built a controller specifically for my motor/inverter/vehicle combination
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Re: Nissan Can translator to analog outputs for old cluster - Is there any?
Front/rear drive need a ground to light up.
Odometer needs 8 pulse per meter.
For current rate and battery capacity this is a 0-12v input.
Odometer needs 8 pulse per meter.
For current rate and battery capacity this is a 0-12v input.
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Re: Nissan Can translator to analog outputs for old cluster - Is there any?
I am building an interface between Nissan Leaf CAN and, in my case Saab i-bus CAN.
I came up with the following specs:
3 x CAN bus
1 x LIN bus
4 x 5 volt input digital (analog with mod option)
5 x 12 volt digital output (to drive relays or dash boards lights)
3 x PWM output at 12 volt (battery voltage) level for dash board gauges
1 x PWM output at 5 volt level (to drive a small servo)
UART and UDC C on the board
Voltage input 9 to 16 volts.
Based on a ESP32 with Wifi and BT.
If anybody is interested I can offer a test sample once I have the first series in.
I came up with the following specs:
3 x CAN bus
1 x LIN bus
4 x 5 volt input digital (analog with mod option)
5 x 12 volt digital output (to drive relays or dash boards lights)
3 x PWM output at 12 volt (battery voltage) level for dash board gauges
1 x PWM output at 5 volt level (to drive a small servo)
UART and UDC C on the board
Voltage input 9 to 16 volts.
Based on a ESP32 with Wifi and BT.
If anybody is interested I can offer a test sample once I have the first series in.
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Re: Nissan Can translator to analog outputs for old cluster - Is there any?
tell us when it works i think a interface like that should exist for conversions.
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Re: Nissan Can translator to analog outputs for old cluster - Is there any?
I will post my updates and photos here. Any feedback would be great.
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Re: Nissan Can translator to analog outputs for old cluster - Is there any?
Interested, keep us posted
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Re: Nissan Can translator to analog outputs for old cluster - Is there any?
Here is the 3D model of the interface-controler
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Re: Nissan Can translator to analog outputs for old cluster - Is there any?
For now I have set these specs:
The controller: ESP32 - S3 mini
I/O:
- 5 digital outputs (9 to 16 volts) for relays, LEDs etc.
- 1 analog input (9 to 16 volts) for variable input (heating level)
- 3 digital inputs (5 volts) for gear switches or any other switches
- voltage output (5 volts) to power the above and a servo motor
- 1 PWM output (5 volts) for servo motor
- 3 PWM outputs (9 to 16 volts) for dashboard gauges, RPM etc.
- voltage input at 9 to 16 volts range, basically 12 volt car battery
- 3 CAN buses for communication with VCU, heater, power steering and car at different speeds
- 1 LIN bus for heater and / or airco pump
- USB C on the board, power and data for programing
- UART on the board for extra communication with other devices like GPS
- Wifi - build in the ESP32
- Bluetooth - build in the ESP32
As soon as a have the boards here for testing I will write an update
The controller: ESP32 - S3 mini
I/O:
- 5 digital outputs (9 to 16 volts) for relays, LEDs etc.
- 1 analog input (9 to 16 volts) for variable input (heating level)
- 3 digital inputs (5 volts) for gear switches or any other switches
- voltage output (5 volts) to power the above and a servo motor
- 1 PWM output (5 volts) for servo motor
- 3 PWM outputs (9 to 16 volts) for dashboard gauges, RPM etc.
- voltage input at 9 to 16 volts range, basically 12 volt car battery
- 3 CAN buses for communication with VCU, heater, power steering and car at different speeds
- 1 LIN bus for heater and / or airco pump
- USB C on the board, power and data for programing
- UART on the board for extra communication with other devices like GPS
- Wifi - build in the ESP32
- Bluetooth - build in the ESP32
As soon as a have the boards here for testing I will write an update
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Re: Nissan Can translator to analog outputs for old cluster - Is there any?
The first boards just arrived.
Re: Nissan Can translator to analog outputs for old cluster - Is there any?
Is it on GitHub ? Very interesting for my project.
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Re: Nissan Can translator to analog outputs for old cluster - Is there any?
I have a couple of boards available. They work with Arduino. All prototypes, but functioning never the less.
If anyone wants to experiment with them, just let me know.
The next iteration will be able to run CircuitPython as well as Arduino, and will have small improvements.
If anyone wants to experiment with them, just let me know.
The next iteration will be able to run CircuitPython as well as Arduino, and will have small improvements.
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Re: Nissan Can translator to analog outputs for old cluster - Is there any?
I would love to experiment with them, I have similar usecasePaulHeystee wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 1:54 pm If anyone wants to experiment with them, just let me know.
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Re: Nissan Can translator to analog outputs for old cluster - Is there any?
Please drop me a DM so we can exchange details regarding shipping etc.
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Re: Nissan Can translator to analog outputs for old cluster - Is there any?
Hi,
Have you managed to progress your project any? asking for a friend…
Have you managed to progress your project any? asking for a friend…