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Domt177 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 1:04 pm Anyone know if one of these can be run in reverse (I.e flipped 180 degrees)
The only issue I can think of is if there is an oil pump which only runs in forward gear

Yes rotate along the vertical is fine (keep motor phase cables down). There is no firmware limit forward or backwards for the motor.

The gearbox breaths using the mating face onto the motor, so you run the risk of oil not staying in the gearbox if you flip it along the output axle axis.

Is there any good solution for a broken connector

Tomas wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:54 am EB754A6C-5436-4275-A181-A41116F888E0.jpeg

Is there any good solution for a broken connector

Here you see alternative to cable side connectors:
viewtopic.php?p=37298#p37298
viewtopic.php?p=38005#p38005

And here is total replacement. I suggest you make it from PETG not ABS because of moisture...
viewtopic.php?p=14728#p14728

I'm currently working on a replacement with M16/M20/M25 thread for either the standard M16/M20/M25 cable glands or the Bulgin Buccanneer 400 Series connectors as shown in the second picture

(The oval holes for the signal connectors are identical to the power connector)
But I don't have the right O-rings for test fitting them yet, so I don't want to release the files just yet.

crasbe wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 3:57 pm I'm currently working on a replacement with M16/M20/M25 thread for either the standard M16/M20/M25 cable glands or the Bulgin Buccanneer 400 Series connectors as shown in the second picture

(The oval holes for the signal connectors are identical to the power connector)

PXL_20230324_152729264.jpg PXL_20230323_171708566.jpg

But I don't have the right O-rings for test fitting them yet, so I don't want to release the files just yet.

looking good, id throw on a few fillets in the corners, really strengthens the part up

Bratitude wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 1:19 am looking good, id throw on a few fillets in the corners, really strengthens the part up

If it helps with printing, I might do that
On the other hand you really can't break or even bend these without a stupidly excessive amount of force.

Anyone tried bit more powerful inverter 9410A163 yet? Or does anyone have can logs for it?

evMacGyver wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:52 am Anyone tried bit more powerful inverter 9410A163 yet? Or does anyone have can logs for it?

What is that inverter from?

evMacGyver wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:52 am Anyone tried bit more powerful inverter 9410A163 yet? Or does anyone have can logs for it?

I have that one and it uses the same CAN process.

arber333 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:09 am I have that one and it uses the same CAN process.

Great, thanks!

If I'm correct, this should be newer model with bit more power? I don't know is power limit higher inside the inverter as same CAN commands still works.

Oh, there was Mitsubishi inverter wIkipage after all, there was just no link from Mitsubishi motor wiki page. This model was listed there.

It is my understanding the inverters are the same and not limited. So by sending a torque command via canbus past the 60/70kw output will give you the desired power.

However its been recognized that the front generator side of the inverter does have an rpm limit, a torque limit and i believe a power limit.
Others have commented that the rear inverter does not have these limits, but it still needs to be tested what the limits are.
As in will it go beyond 200nm torque and/or beyond 10,500rpm via stock inverter canbus commands.

Tomas wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:54 am EB754A6C-5436-4275-A181-A41116F888E0.jpeg

Is there any good solution for a broken connector

As promised I published my solution for the Outlander cable glands: viewtopic.php?t=3563

I noticed yesterday that the holes for the DC supply lines and the holes for the signal cables do NOT have the same dimensions.
In a couple of days I'll have a version for the signal holes as well, but it'll take some time for the new O-rings to be delivered (oh how I missed it...).


Edit: On a positive note though: I just published the gland for the auxiliary ports

crasbe wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 3:13 pm I noticed yesterday that the holes for the DC supply lines and the holes for the signal cables do NOT have the same dimensions.

This fits for signal cables viewtopic.php?p=14728#p14728

evMacGyver wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 3:27 pm This fits for signal cables viewtopic.php?p=14728#p14728

I know

My version is now available on Printables and some details in the aforementioned thread.
I'm planning a version for the typical Weipu SPxx connectors too, but they haven't been delivered yet.

there are so many topics on Mitsubishi, but it turns out to be very difficult to find the information I need. Does anyone use this motor with an open inverter board? share the configuration file if you have it. thank you.

Romale wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:25 pm there are so many topics on Mitsubishi, but it turns out to be very difficult to find the information I need. Does anyone use this motor with an open inverter board? share the configuration file if you have it. thank you.

There is some video of me running outlander rear motor and open inverter

I will try to get some settings from my records

Later on i tried to run it with Lebowski drive


Lebowski settings Outlander rear motor impedance:
Inductance 230uH
resistance 180mOhm
miscellaneous
wiggle range: 90 deg
wiggle rate: 180 Hz

arber333 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 6:00 pm There is some video of me running outlander rear motor and open inverter

Inductance 230uH
resistance 180mOhm
miscellaneous
wiggle range: 90 deg
wiggle rate: 180 Hz

this is very cool. but that doesn't answer my question. are there people here who drive this motor using any controller controlled by the v3 johu board? if yes, could you please share the settings file.json and point to the photo which resolver connection was used?

I mean, there is someone who has already installed this motor in the car and drives driving not a can bus, but an OpenInverter brain.

There are two that come to mind (probably others too):
FFMan's BMW
bobby_come_lately's Z3
Probably worth having a look through the threads or contacting them.

Worth noting that unless you have the inverter phase connections and the resolver connections exactly the same as them the syncofs value will be meaningless.

thank you. now I will sit down to read these topics. yes, that's why I wanted to see the settings file and the connection from one person so that it would work right away.

Romale wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:25 pm there are so many topics on Mitsubishi, but it turns out to be very difficult to find the information I need. Does anyone use this motor with an open inverter board? share the configuration file if you have it. thank you.

I've had my motor running in the car with a gen 2 Prius inverter and an Open Inverter board. It needed more tuning to be drivable at the time and I was too impatient for all that, so I switch to canbus controlled Outlander inverter for control.
Would certainly be worth trying again with the work that has been done running FOC on the OI boards.

Has anyone looked igbt module model and main capacitor voltage? 400v was verified to work, now looking HV limitations if inverter could do 108s somehow, not needed to get full 4.2v cell voltage - 4.1v (443v) would be nice

LRBen wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2023 9:59 pm I've had my motor running in the car with a gen 2 Prius inverter and an Open Inverter board. It needed more tuning to be drivable at the time and I was too impatient for all that, so I switch to canbus controlled Outlander inverter for control.
Would certainly be worth trying again with the work that has been done running FOC on the OI boards.

LRBen, what system or device are you using to handle CAN signal generation/communication to the Mitsubishi inverter ? I'm looking to try experiments with my Imiev inverter and motor and hopefully it's similar in its CAN language... anything that you can share with me would be very helpful. Cheers. (Obviously I also hope to use a Prius inverter in future too for potentially more peak power). Cheers from Australia.

DkubusEV wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:23 pm LRBen, what system or device are you using to handle CAN signal generation/communication to the Mitsubishi inverter ? I'm looking to try experiments with my Imiev inverter and motor and hopefully it's similar in its CAN language... anything that you can share with me would be very helpful. Cheers. (Obviously I also hope to use a Prius inverter in future too for potentially more peak power). Cheers from Australia.

I ran it on my own VCU design based on a teensy 3.6 and allot of code from aot93's VCU.
Although I'm in the middle of a battery swap and planning to use zombie next, just need to test the modified code.