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Tuning help

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Hi! I have mi controller working and installed on my car, I´ts works and car can move smothly, but it has less power was I expected.
I need help with generated V/hz curve.
My motor is a 95Vrms 4poles 50Hz 1430rpm 2,2Kw and my DC bus is 120V.

On wiki saids:
fweak is the frequency at which the full possible voltage is generated. It is also the point of the highest motor power. Beyond fweak torque will decrease to the square of frequency and thus power will decrease linear with frequency.
For illustration we will assume a bus voltage of 500V and a 4-pole (p=2) motor with a nominal speed of n=1450rpm@f=50Hz and 230V. With 500V DC an AC voltage of 500/1.41=355V can be generated.
With our illustration motor fweak=(355 V/230 V) * 50 Hz = 77 Hz. fweak can be configured lower than that resulting in more torque at the low end.
In my case is:
fweak=(85 V/95 V) * 50 Hz = 44 Hz ; Is this correct?


fslipmin/fslipmax is the slip frequency at which the motor is run at minimum/maximum throttle. fslipmin is set to the motors optimal slip frequency which can be deduced from the nameplate. fslipmin=f-p*n/60. With our illustration motor fslipmin=50-2*1450/60=1.66Hz. fslipmax can be set as high as breakdown torque which is not found on the nameplate. So its best found experimental starting with 2*fslipmin. If set too high the motor will start to rock violently on startup, possibly tripping the over current limit.
In my case is:
fslipmin=50-2*1450/50=1.66Hz ; Same value at example, is this correct?
fslipmax=3.32Hz ?


fconst, Frequency where slip frequency is derated to form a constant power region. Only has an effect when < fweak
What´s best curve for a electric car? It must rise to 50Hz and then constant up to say 200Hz?
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fslipconstmax, Slip frequency at maximum throttle and fconst.
help here too please.



sorry for my english and thanks to all of you.
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Re: Tuning help

Post by johu »

Ok, it isn't a strong motor to begin with and your voltage is very low in comparison. Now, your tune.
You write: fslipmin=50-2*1450/50=1.66Hz BUT it should be 50-2*1430/60=2.33. Set it to 2.5 and fslipmax to 5. fslipconstmax you can set to 10 and fconst to 100.
See what that does.
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