Outlander rear motor and inverter

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Re: Outlander rear motor and inverter

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Bratitude wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 6:17 pm is there any particular CV you have in mind? i was just thinking of making a stub shaft with the 33 vw spline so all the VW flanges fit. apposed to doing a full custom cv, say one that works with a mini shaft, would be very expensive.
I would say 33 VW Spline is the away to go for now. I got some flanges coming to do some mock ups.
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Re: Outlander rear motor and inverter

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tom91 wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 6:46 pm I would say 33 VW Spline is the away to go for now. I got some flanges coming to do some mock ups.
makes the most sense. vw stuff is strong, cheap and abundant.
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first mockup; vw beetle 33spline, outlander on the other end.
A few fillets to adjust, but backspacing should be correct. ill make some mock ups this week to check
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Re: Outlander rear motor and inverter

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nlc wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 5:05 pm Thank you, firmware should be different between Mitsubishi Outlander and Peugeot Ion because yesterday I was able to drive the inverter with only the frame ID 0x285, without specific sequence
Hi NLC, I also have Imiev motor and inverter that I would like to use (attached to vw beetle gearbox) for a classic car conversion. Did you get any more results with your CAN bus testing and is it possible to make these inverters open source software controlled?

Really looking forward to hearing more. Thanks guys for all your hard work on this.

Cheers
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Re: Outlander rear motor and inverter

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DkubusEV wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 5:44 am Hi NLC, I also have Imiev motor and inverter that I would like to use (attached to vw beetle gearbox) for a classic car conversion. Did you get any more results with your CAN bus testing and is it possible to make these inverters open source software controlled?
Did you already try the published outlander control methods?
I'd be surprised if the imiev protocol differs significantly
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Not yet as so far I have only purchased the damaged Imiev as a donor vehicle....
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aot93 wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2022 10:04 am To add some more to the above:

HV voltage at the inverter is only sent until a torque request is made to the inverter, so it's useful only for pre-charging.
Once a torque request has been made it looks like the byte order changes, I've not worked that out yet to get voltage reading from the inverter whilst it's running. The BMS take care of voltage limit and the charger reports HV from the other side of the contactors
On this topic, how quickly does a rear inverter come to live once it has been given 12V, it would be very useful to use as a precharge monitor.
The Inverter reports this at a 10ms period where the charger only reports at 100ms.
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less than 500ms I would say.
I've not timed it, but it's faster than the teensy can boot
I do exactly this; timing the pre-charge stage using the inverter reported voltage.
If it's too fast it could be an indicator of a welded contactor.
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