BMW ZF GA8P75HZ Gearbox Hacking
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Re: BMW ZF GA8P75HZ Gearbox Hacking
good price for a all in one.
Do you think you squeeze more out of it from the original power output ?
BMW bumf
"The maximum power of 65 kW can be provided for a maximum of 10 seconds. The electrical machine provides a continuous power of approx. 45 kW as from 5000 rpm.
The maximum torque of 250 Nm is already available from standstill of the electrical machine.
The efficiency of the electrical machine is up to 96 %. The speed range is from 0 to 7200 rpm."
Do you think you squeeze more out of it from the original power output ?
BMW bumf
"The maximum power of 65 kW can be provided for a maximum of 10 seconds. The electrical machine provides a continuous power of approx. 45 kW as from 5000 rpm.
The maximum torque of 250 Nm is already available from standstill of the electrical machine.
The efficiency of the electrical machine is up to 96 %. The speed range is from 0 to 7200 rpm."
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Re: BMW ZF GA8P75HZ Gearbox Hacking
Bolt another motor on the front
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Re: BMW ZF GA8P75HZ Gearbox Hacking
Just arrived. Now the connector hunt begins....again
I'm going to need a hacksaw
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Re: BMW ZF GA8P75HZ Gearbox Hacking
Nice Purchase. The 3 phase plug to connect to the gearbox is hard to find and the cables are expensive. I purchased the cable from a scrap yard in Germany but it was still expensive. I am sure you will find a better soloution?
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Re: BMW ZF GA8P75HZ Gearbox Hacking
Picked up a HV cable, loom and shifter from a local scrap yard for 150 Euros. Considering what some are charging for a tarted up forklift motor and controller then that doesn't seem too bad to me.
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Re: BMW ZF GA8P75HZ Gearbox Hacking
Yes I saw you had the cable in your video that you posted shortly after my comment. You are good at getting good prices.
Re: BMW ZF GA8P75HZ Gearbox Hacking
Does it look like a typical BMW inline 6 block would bolt right up or adapter needed?
Formerly 92 E30 BMW Cabrio with Tesla power
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Re: BMW ZF GA8P75HZ Gearbox Hacking
This is nice, i had just been reading all post and looking on all video's for the Lexus GS450h gearbox and then i started thinking; how does BMW drive it hybrid cars? And here is the answer, would be great to convert my E30 to electric.
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Re: BMW ZF GA8P75HZ Gearbox Hacking
Did anything ever come of this? I've been thinking about this project myself.
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Considering it just seems to be me working on this and I have 50 projects queued up then it will be done when I get to it.
I'm going to need a hacksaw
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Re: BMW ZF GA8P75HZ Gearbox Hacking
Does this atx have Remy motor inside?Jack Bauer wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 9:12 am Considering it just seems to be me working on this and I have 50 projects queued up then it will be done when I get to it.
If yes they are capable at least 100kW continuously...
I think i allready posted resolver wiring for that motor somewhere...
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Re: BMW ZF GA8P75HZ Gearbox Hacking
Had a quick dig and found some stuff not mentioned here from what I have seen.
This appears to be the box that BMW are using on ZF's site, According to the data here it contains a 90KW peak motor, 250NM torque. Integrated Pump and the motor is water/oil cooled. Also has a cutout view which may be of use.
https://www.zf.com/products/en/cars/products_34949.html
Another site here has a good breakdown of multiple internal parts, Five internal clutches, I presume one is to decouple the ICE as mentioned in the ZF listing, the rest to switch internal gear ratios? There are four planetary gearsets inside so presume various combinations used to get 8 speeds.
https://www.automaticchoice.com/en-gb/b ... -catalogue Not sure if these are hydraulically driven, or electrically/ something else.
There is a technical manual available but this site only supplies business to business, not to individuals. Of course no prices listed.
https://www.automaticchoice.com/en-gb/8hp45-man01
Also mentioned on XF is the availability of all wheel drive with this box, I presume there is a variant floating around with a transferbox such as this
https://www.proxyparts.com/car-parts-st ... d/6990499/
*Looks* like it simply bolts inbetween the standard output of the normal box.
The motor speed sensor is listed here, probably off the shelf but could be BMW internal. Looks to read "pbt g530" "706-066" Can't find any data on it with a quick search. https://www.automaticchoice.com/en-gb/8p75-ele02
This appears to be the box that BMW are using on ZF's site, According to the data here it contains a 90KW peak motor, 250NM torque. Integrated Pump and the motor is water/oil cooled. Also has a cutout view which may be of use.
https://www.zf.com/products/en/cars/products_34949.html
Another site here has a good breakdown of multiple internal parts, Five internal clutches, I presume one is to decouple the ICE as mentioned in the ZF listing, the rest to switch internal gear ratios? There are four planetary gearsets inside so presume various combinations used to get 8 speeds.
https://www.automaticchoice.com/en-gb/b ... -catalogue Not sure if these are hydraulically driven, or electrically/ something else.
There is a technical manual available but this site only supplies business to business, not to individuals. Of course no prices listed.
https://www.automaticchoice.com/en-gb/8hp45-man01
Also mentioned on XF is the availability of all wheel drive with this box, I presume there is a variant floating around with a transferbox such as this
https://www.proxyparts.com/car-parts-st ... d/6990499/
*Looks* like it simply bolts inbetween the standard output of the normal box.
The motor speed sensor is listed here, probably off the shelf but could be BMW internal. Looks to read "pbt g530" "706-066" Can't find any data on it with a quick search. https://www.automaticchoice.com/en-gb/8p75-ele02
Re: BMW ZF GA8P75HZ Gearbox Hacking
There is a product just about to be released to control the none hybrid 8hp bmw gearboxes using the original tcu using can and bypassing the immo. No plans to cover the hybrid version as yet but he might if there is enough interest. https://www.canformance.net/shop/
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Re: BMW ZF GA8P75HZ Gearbox Hacking
Just posted in my project thread but I have the motor doing what it's supposed to do. I'd been working with a failing current sensor from day one. Now that it's fixed, all's well.