[DRIVING] BMW Touring + phev motor & inverter

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Pete9008 wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 8:39 am Glad it's running better :)

Probably worth posting what you found as it might help someone else solve a similar problem in the future?
Good plan - i'll post up my params once i've done a bit more on them. I'll also post my exact resolver wiring as i'd be pretty sure anyone doing this setup again would get close by copying the wire for wire connections.

I had tuned my syncofs to 5000 following the tuning video steps, and whilst the car drove up & down the drive OK it lacked any real torque, so i added 32768 to my syncof and tried again. Much better though the direction is reversed. IIRC the video doesn't mention each setup will have 2 null points, and finding one is only half the story.
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Well - amazing first run - will post video later. Up to 45mph, no trips or dsats all great apart from dc-dc might not be working.

Pulls away strong in 2nd gear, easy change up through the gears - hums along nicely.

All this on our village road which has been closed for 3 months due to major building nearby. So I have a mile of closed road to play on :-)

Another run after lunch, aiming for a 50mph cruise in third gear :-) watch this space

Over the moon with that result :-)
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Awesome, was wondering how you was getting on :D Making good progress
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Nothing quite like those first test drives for putting a grin on your face!
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We did a few more runs - good as gold throughout. Turned on the brake regen after this video, that needs some fettling as it was a bit harsh but its set to -50 on brkregen and pot2 is about 75%



DCDC doesn't appear to be working, still but we had enough aux volts to do 6 or so runs during the day. Pulling off in second was best and ok to about 50mph. Pulling away in third was a bit slow. Not sure what max rpm of motor is, need to check and log.

Good start, need to get my logging and internal display working so i can keep an eye on the temps etc.
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Fantastic :)
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Under-bonnet as it stands. still awaiting some some bits to go back in and wire tidying once it's all completed. That HV cable needs to be the right length also.

It's 3 levels, lower level is 2 x 60v packs plus the charger, second level is 4 x 60v packs, top level as shown.

The black box to the right is the original BMW contactors repurposed with manual switches at the moment for peace of mind isolation. The contactors under the High Voltage warning are controlled by position 1 and 2 (ign) on the key.

BMW BMS is installed but not hooked up in any way as yet, plus SOC needs calibrating etc. Small pot in black box currently used to set regen level.
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Congratz 👏
What's the highest Amps you were able to reach?
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Mhs wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 9:39 am Congratz 👏
What's the highest Amps you were able to reach?
not sure on the amps, the plot was inconsistent after a bit. hope to have some proper logging to sd card working soon. We saw 180 at cruise, and i think 400 on acceleration but i can't be sure. This is the AMP spot value as opposed to il1 or il2 is it ?
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Amp spot value is amplitude. For phase amps il1 and il2 will do it. idc is the calculated DC current.
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So after a frustrating hunt for my dcdc issue I got it resolved today. I suspect that i got misled by there being two issues. The first i think was a poor connection in my connector to the charger. This misled me into thinking the unit was faulty. The replacement charger definitely had an intermittent fault on the same connector but on the charger side. Took me a few install/reinstall to find all this. Decided the connectors could be deleted, and soldered my own loom to the wiring - works now :-) That charger can output some 12v charge when it wants. Like 50amps.

The second issue was the ABS light on and numerous fault codes. The ABS pump is a known issue on the e46 so sent if off for refurb. They reported they couldn't find a fault but suggested it could be intermittent as the codes i was seeing were consistent with the known issue. So i asked them to refurb it anyway (i think its a solder reflow job). Once refitted my faults had gone but i had some new ones (pressure sensors, brake fluid level).

So spent way too long building a laptop with a 32bit Window 10 and loaded INPA, and managed to clear the codes. All i'm left with now is 'no can comms to dme', which is because the DME (ECU) is unplugged. Don't think the mot tester will care about that, but i expect with some research i can spoof the DME to the ABS unit anyway.

In parallel to all this, my handy mate has decoded all the e46 dash signals and is building up a custom pcb. Not as easy as it sounds as its an odd mixture of can, hard wiring and analogue resistance levels (the e46 had 2 fuel tanks and the dash averages them together with damping), but i think now we can control everything, so fuel will be an approx SOC, temp will be temp, MPG gauge will be amps etc

So this weekend, another road test and some logging and shunt calibration i hope.
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FFMan wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 8:50 pm In parallel to all this, my handy mate has decoded all the e46 dash signals and is building up a custom pcb. Not as easy as it sounds as its an odd mixture of can, hard wiring and analogue resistance levels (the e46 had 2 fuel tanks and the dash averages them together with damping), but i think now we can control everything, so fuel will be an approx SOC, temp will be temp, MPG gauge will be amps etc
Will your mate publish his findings? The E46 is quite a popular platform for conversions, so a lot of people could benefit from the information.
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Awesome progress. Looking forward to seeing this one on the road.
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crasbe wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 8:40 am Will your mate publish his findings? The E46 is quite a popular platform for conversions, so a lot of people could benefit from the information.
sure yes we'll publish - board is due in a week or so, so will build it up and test it shortly
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Some small progress in whilst doing a few bits for mot.

Got the 2 leds on the charge socket working so at a glance you can tell if its fully charged. Also coded auto start mode, so you just need to plug it in and away it goes. Worked on swapping my in car dash using 2 small nextion displays to one 800x600 display. Required some code and wiring changes and lots of testing but its getting there. Added a 96 cell display page and incorporated the code that reads the BMS.

Removed the tow bar as I'm not going to use it, it's excess weight and it had been badly fitted causing the rear bumper to not align properly. Ordered the correct bumper shocks which should sort that out. Got 2 tyres fitted.

Need to install the new single screen dash and test the logging again.

Hoping to MOT it in a week or so.
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Great news - just passed the MOT :-)

So next jobs, get the BMS balancing, some proper SOC measurements and more batteries - but today is a day for a raised glass.

Deep thank you to all who helped me get this far - seriously couldn't have done it without the assistance - you know who you are.

I'm still tuning the parameters with help, once settled on a good set i'mm post them, but if anyone wants a working set get in touch.
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awesome news, wheres the videos?
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Bigpie wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 3:19 pm awesome news, wheres the videos?
i'll shoot some at the weekend when i do some range testing on it for sure
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Nice, looking forward to seeing. Think I've got a chademo board left if you want it
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Bigpie wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 3:23 pm Nice, looking forward to seeing. Think I've got a chademo board left if you want it
now chademo is new to me but always willing to learn - bring it along and explain it to me in simple terms sometime !
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Hows the car going?
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Still battling with insurance costs - best seems like Keith Michaels @ £695 so just working through what they need in terms of reports and will insure it when back from hols 1st Aug and start using it.

Still can't get the balancing to work but i suspect its because there is only 10mv delta across my cells and the simpbms code i'm using wants min 40mv so will wait until i've used it some more.

Now the wiring is finalised, i'm ordering a new arduino PCB and will tidy all the wiring up into a loom.

Will need some tips on adding another pack at some stage but i intend to use it a bit first and see how it settles in.

Did some param tuning at the weekend, playing with throtcur to get max value without it tripping when floored. I found a value of 4.2 was the right one, but it may vary as the voltage drops.

Picked up a space saver spare wheel tonight as it didn't have one, and have fitted a bluetooth radio so getting it ready for the road :-)
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Unless you’ve got a bad module it’s unlikely your cell delta will get that high, my delta only gets above 25mv below 3.5v and I don’t generally discharge much below that, 3.4v lowest
normally my delta is sub 10mv. Can you now change your code to a lower value to test it works?
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> Can you now change your code to a lower value to test it works?

yes i guess that is the thing to try next.
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They didn't ask me for anything:S
I need to rewire my BMS to permanent 12v so my balancing actually has chance to work.
Looking forward seeing it in action
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