General wiring question to screen or not to screen.

Introduction and miscellaneous that we haven't created categories for, yet
Post Reply
User avatar
EV_Builder
Posts: 1199
Joined: Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:50 pm
Location: The Netherlands
Has thanked: 16 times
Been thanked: 33 times
Contact:

General wiring question to screen or not to screen.

Post by EV_Builder »

Which wire between motor and inverter?
I assume thick and screened..

Which wire between battery blocks?
I assume solid strip or core well isolated ..

Which wire between battery pack and inverter?

Which wire between CCS2 DC and pack?

Can some people shed some light on this? :roll:
Converting an Porsche Panamera
see http://www.wdrautomatisering.nl for bespoke BMS modules.
User avatar
johu
Site Admin
Posts: 5791
Joined: Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:52 pm
Location: Kassel/Germany
Has thanked: 157 times
Been thanked: 1025 times
Contact:

Re: General wiring question to screen or not to screen.

Post by johu »

EV_Builder wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:41 pm Which wire between motor and inverter?
I assume thick and screened..
Yes, this is where I'd consider screening most important
EV_Builder wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:41 pm Which wire between battery pack and inverter?
All OEMs use screened cable, I don't, and most DIY builders rather use welding cable. Passed EMC test with Polo without screened DC cable.
EV_Builder wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:41 pm Which wire between CCS2 DC and pack?
Nissan uses unscreened cable, only charger EMI to be expected here which is probably already below the limits.
Support R/D and forum on Patreon: https://patreon.com/openinverter - Subscribe on odysee: https://odysee.com/@openinverter:9
User avatar
vwbrady
Posts: 246
Joined: Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:18 am
Location: Seattle, WA
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 11 times

Re: General wiring question to screen or not to screen.

Post by vwbrady »

I was wondering this myself. In my professional life, we screen (shield) everything HV, and even now run shielded CAN cables throughout due to such high EMI. I won't be running shielded cable anywhere on my conversion as my inverter is integrated with the motor (gen 2 leaf.) I also don't have much DC cable to run, and my DCDC & Charger are PWM controlled (Gen 2 Volt) so i don't expect sensitivity with those control wires.
User avatar
celeron55
Posts: 776
Joined: Thu Jul 04, 2019 3:04 pm
Location: Finland
Has thanked: 28 times
Been thanked: 110 times
Contact:

Re: General wiring question to screen or not to screen.

Post by celeron55 »

I think one reason to shield the DC cables is damage detection. If something slices a shielded cable, a ground fault detector easily and automatically detects the fault. Of course in a conversion with no ground fault detector it's not useful, unless you add checking HV insulation resistance to your yearly maintenance schedule or so.
User avatar
vwbrady
Posts: 246
Joined: Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:18 am
Location: Seattle, WA
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 11 times

Re: General wiring question to screen or not to screen.

Post by vwbrady »

the difference in safety measures between our conversions and the systems I design for public use is ridiculous - HVIL and Iso Detection being the main pieces.

as an example we are using 120mm² single pole cables x3 (pos & neg) in parallel to carry the current we need.
PXL_20210609_011415408.jpg
PXL_20210609_011445109.jpg
Post Reply