Shipping to Great Britain possible again!

[johu]

Currently I can not ship to GB because the new virus mutation has led to cancellation of all traffic.
I hope all orders in transit will make it, please check your tracking info regularly.

Best wishes from Germany.

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UPDATE: shipping resumed.

[Jack Bauer]

Same boat here.

[SciroccoEV]

"Fog in Channel, Continent Cut Off"

[nuffz]

have you started to ship to the UK yet?

[New Electric Ireland]

have you started to ship to the UK yet?

You'll have to wait until the treaty has been ratified and VAT/Duty rates confirmed. EU suppliers will also need to register for an EORI and prepare export and RoO documentation which may be onerous for small traders like Open Inverter and EVBMW.

Some UK import info here;

https://www.gov.uk/prepare-to-import-to ... nuary-2021

Some Irish export info here (presumably similar for Germany);

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/e105e ... ith-the-uk

[johu]

I'm hoping sending to GB in the future shouldn't be more difficult than ROW (rest of world).
The current situation isn't caused by Brexit but by the virus mutation.

You can check here by selecting "Großbritannien" as destination. https://www.dhl.de/de/privatkunden/pake ... tSelection

So far no go.

[New Electric Ireland]

I'm hoping sending to GB in the future shouldn't be more difficult than ROW (rest of world).

Assuming it's the same process as Ireland then you'll need to declare each export online (we use AIS) and keep records to prove you've exported the goods outside the EU. The export will qualify for 0% VAT if I understand correctly.

What's unclear is whether the items attract duty when entering the UK and how those are collected. If it's like buying items from the US then the recipient will pay a percentage of the total value and a collection fee on receipt in the UK.

[New Electric Ireland]

The export will qualify for 0% VAT if I understand correctly.

Some more useful information... VAT registration is now required for sales into the UK and the exact procedure changes if goods are valued above 135 GBP;

https://www.avalara.com/vatlive/en/vat- ... ports.html

https://www.grantthornton.co.uk/insight ... er-brexit/

[New Electric Ireland]

Even Captain Kirk has stopped shipping to the UK because of the VAT administration costs

[johu]

Wow, that's ridiculous.

[johu]

Shipping is possible again!
I talked to my tax attorney, he said GB will be handled like any other non-EU country. So no VAT from my side and customs is the importers business. I'll just keep shipping.

[New Electric Ireland]

I talked to my tax attorney, he said GB will be handled like any other non-EU country. So no VAT from my side and customs is the importers business. I'll just keep shipping.

That's incorrect. You must charge UK Supply VAT when you sell the product. I think your tax attorney is confused with UK import VAT and duty which is payable by the recipient on parcels worth 135 GBP or more.

Latest guidance on UK government website;

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/vat-and-ove ... -in-the-uk

[celeron55]

Personally I seriously doubt the UK can succesfully impose such rules over companies shipping to UK. It must be a misunderstanding, no country in the world works like that. You either are in EU and use EUs system, or are outside EU and handle your import VAT like any other independent country.

[New Electric Ireland]

Personally I seriously doubt the UK can succesfully impose such rules over companies shipping to UK. It must be a misunderstanding, no country in the world works like that. You either are in EU and use EUs system, or are outside EU and handle your import VAT like any other independent country.

"From 1 January 2021 imports valued at under £135, which are currently exempt from VAT, will become taxable. Furthermore the place of supply will always be treated as being in the UK, so the overseas supplier will become required to register for VAT here. This will apply even if he or she makes only a single sale in the UK as he will be a NETP. It will be interesting to see if small foreign businesses which sell goods by mail order or through their internet site will be willing to continue to sell to UK customers after 31 December.

As a result of this change online marketplaces involved in facilitating the sale of imported goods, such as E-bay or Amazon, will be responsible for collecting and accounting for the VAT on sales through such marketplaces, even when the goods are in the UK at the point of sale.

Business-to-business sales not exceeding £135 in value will also normally be subject to these new rules. However, where the business customer is VAT registered and provides its registration number to the seller, the VAT can be accounted for by the customer by means of a reverse charge."

https://www.cbw.co.uk/2020/10/vat-after-brexit/

[johu]

I'm willing to take the risk, probably "hotter cooked than eaten" as we say around here.

[New Electric Ireland]

I'm willing to take the risk, probably "hotter cooked than eaten" as we say around here.

Probably not a good idea to suggest you're not following VAT rules on a public forum... "go straight to jail" as we say around here

Maybe now is the time to consider a UK reseller for OI products so that you only have to setup a single B2B relationship? I think Tom is using a UK reseller for SimpBMS.

[Stephen Darbey]

I went to buy a motor from the UK to be delivered to Ireland. He couldn't tell me what taxes I was liable for.

And I am just an innocent purchaser. But if they don't know how can anyone else. ?

In truth nobody knows I fear.
Regards
Stephen

[johu]

Brexit dust is going to take a while to settle. Then we will know more.
In true open source spirit I will share my findings

EDIT: just studied Kevins links a bit closer to find this

Imported goods above £135, or consignments of multiple goods with a combined intrinsic value above £135, now use the old import VAT procedures. This means the seller may pay the import VAT (and duties) on clearance, and reclaim if they have a UK VAT number. Alternatively, the seller may opt to have their customer may pay at customs or to the delivery agent.

So since most items in store are above £135 the customer will clear import VAT as usual in most countries. Ironically it becomes more complicated for less expensive good.
Something similar will be implemented in the EU starting July (supposedly). You have to declare every three months how much you sold to which EU country. Declaration is done in your country and the VAT is then distributed to the import countries.

[mjc506]

One data point: I ordered my openinverter board last week, and it arrived today (thanks Johannes, brilliantly packaged) complete with customs form and address labels on the box. No vat or customs charges for me! (Although that's probably my good luck used up for the year...)

[johu]

Thanks, thats not bad at all.
I also sent two spare V3 boards to UK and they arrived equally quick and nobody asked for customs. Like said, Brexit dust, they probably have better things to do right now.