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Re: BMW i3 CCS/charge port controller

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:19 am
by muehlpower
This is a very cheap CAN analizer. But I don't know if the format is compatible with savvy.
https://www.seeedstudio.com/USB-CAN-Ana ... -2888.html

The CAN BUS Analyzer Tool APGDT002 from Micrichip is more expensive but probably compatible. About 100€/$

Re: BMW i3 CCS/charge port controller

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:55 am
by Jack Bauer
I'm thinking more along the lines of something non pc based. just connect two wires and press a button. logs to an sd card.

Re: BMW i3 CCS/charge port controller

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:14 pm
by paaa
I have one of these for exactly that , and its just a reprogrammed olimax board
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CAN-Bus-Data ... SwuOZeAQA6
Its great for quick on the fly logging, quick sniffing. I normally just import it I to excel sheet I have so it can convert hex and work out values that are made up of multiple bytes. Admittedly I do prefer the kvaser leaf light and savvy now though.

Re: BMW i3 CCS/charge port controller

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:54 pm
by Scott166
I wasn't sure how to put a video on so I have put a link to a vid of me trying to find the can cables.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/KksgtRfJR3v1NPRV7

Hope it works

Re: BMW i3 CCS/charge port controller

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:56 pm
by muehlpower
since it is an RHD the BDC will be on the left. The CAN BUS is also on the RND switch and instrument cluster. Twisted red and red / blue wire!

Re: BMW i3 CCS/charge port controller

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:27 pm
by Scott166
Thanks 👍

Re: BMW i3 CCS/charge port controller

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:36 pm
by Jack Bauer
Any progress folks?

Re: BMW i3 CCS/charge port controller

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 6:15 pm
by paaa
Im sending a usb can device to Scott with an inductive pickup so he can do some logging with savvy can on his car when charging.

Re: BMW i3 CCS/charge port controller

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 6:40 pm
by Jack Bauer
Excellent. Much appreciated.

Re: BMW i3 CCS/charge port controller

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:15 pm
by EV_Builder
paaa wrote: Wed Mar 24, 2021 6:15 pm Im sending a usb can device to Scott with an inductive pickup so he can do some logging with savvy can on his car when charging.
Any news here?

I'm able to buy the device but offcourse i only want todo that if it makes sense :D

Re: BMW i3 CCS/charge port controller

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:47 pm
by paaa
Im hoping to test my setup on a few cars on work tomorrow, and then ship the unit to Scott on Thursday morning.

Re: BMW i3 CCS/charge port controller

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:55 pm
by EV_Builder
paaa wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:47 pm Im hoping to test my setup on a few cars on work tomorrow, and then ship the unit to Scott on Thursday morning.
Owkidoki! Go Go Go Go! :D :D :D

Re: BMW i3 CCS/charge port controller

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:32 pm
by Hans Gustafsson
Here is a general Design_Guide of what needs to be done by a CCS port. I do not know if it is of any help to you, but here it is.

http://tesla.o.auroraobjects.eu/Design_ ... V3_1_1.pdf

Re: BMW i3 CCS/charge port controller

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:08 am
by Scott166
paaa wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:47 pm Im hoping to test my setup on a few cars on work tomorrow, and then ship the unit to Scott on Thursday morning.
How's the Can gizmo going? Any luck yet?

Re: BMW i3 CCS/charge port controller

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:41 am
by paaa
I shipped it last week , it should be arriving soon.The joys of Brexit

Re: BMW i3 CCS/charge port controller

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:10 am
by Scott166
Excellent news, thanks
I hope it's not in the Suez 😅

Re: BMW i3 CCS/charge port controller

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:49 pm
by Scott166
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Re: BMW i3 CCS/charge port controller

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:50 pm
by Scott166
i think ive found it in the centre console

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Re: BMW i3 CCS/charge port controller

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:51 pm
by Scott166
Is this going to be enough access?

Re: BMW i3 CCS/charge port controller

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:22 pm
by Bryson
The trick I’ve used in tight spots like that is to push a pin or needle into the wiring, then attach a clip to the bare needle sticking out. This should get you a signal without needing more than 10-20mm of wire access. Good luck and thank you!

Re: BMW i3 CCS/charge port controller

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:57 pm
by vwbrady
teach me how to run savvy can, i'll pull apart my i3 and go take some logs. I'm serious.

Re: BMW i3 CCS/charge port controller

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:54 pm
by mdrobnak
vwbrady wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:57 pm teach me how to run savvy can, i'll pull apart my i3 and go take some logs. I'm serious.
Windows, Mac, or Linux? What interface are you using?

-Matt

Re: BMW i3 CCS/charge port controller

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:41 am
by Bratitude
vwbrady wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:57 pm teach me how to run savvy can, i'll pull apart my i3 and go take some logs. I'm serious.
If you have a arduino due:
viewtopic.php?t=1425

that gets your can interface out of the way!

Re: BMW i3 CCS/charge port controller

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 2:11 pm
by vwbrady
mdrobnak wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:54 pm
vwbrady wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:57 pm teach me how to run savvy can, i'll pull apart my i3 and go take some logs. I'm serious.
Windows, Mac, or Linux? What interface are you using?

-Matt
Windows

Re: BMW i3 CCS/charge port controller

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 3:04 pm
by jon volk
vwbrady wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 2:11 pm
mdrobnak wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:54 pm
vwbrady wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:57 pm teach me how to run savvy can, i'll pull apart my i3 and go take some logs. I'm serious.
Windows, Mac, or Linux? What interface are you using?

-Matt
Windows
Just search YouTube for Savvycan. Collin has two or three tutorials