Volkswagen Heater - Revision history

Rustybkts: /* General Information [1] */

2025-04-23T08:54:19Z

General Information [1]

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	* Temperature control by integrated sensor		* Temperature control by integrated sensor
	* 3d Scan: [https://grabcad.com/library/vw-egolf-gte-electric-water-heater-1 https://grabcad.com/]		* 3d Scan: [https://grabcad.com/library/vw-egolf-gte-electric-water-heater-1 https://grabcad.com/]
			* Must be used in an inverted orientation with the sockets situated below as air can be left trapped in the heater element zone causing steam to be explosively generated

	== Dimensions ==		== Dimensions ==

J0hannes: /* Dimensions, reference to spring clamp catalog, where we get the nozzle dimension as per standard */

2025-01-18T08:26:09Z

Dimensions, reference to spring clamp catalog, where we get the nozzle dimension as per standard

← Older revision		Revision as of 08:26, 18 January 2025
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	* 3d Scan: [https://grabcad.com/library/vw-egolf-gte-electric-water-heater-1 https://grabcad.com/]		* 3d Scan: [https://grabcad.com/library/vw-egolf-gte-electric-water-heater-1 https://grabcad.com/]

			== Dimensions ==

			* Fluid connection (mm): 20 (Nozzle dimensions according to DIN3021-3<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20250109134824/https://images.carid.com/mubea/items/pdf/hose-spring-band-clamp-brochure.pdf</ref>)
			* Dimensions L x W x H (mm): 210 x 73 x175
			* Weight (kg): ~1,7 <br />

	== Pinout/Connectors ==		== Pinout/Connectors ==

Tom91: Categories

2024-12-20T16:20:04Z

J0hannes at 16:34, 12 October 2024

2024-10-12T16:34:23Z

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	== Pinout/Connectors ==		== Pinout/Connectors ==
	[[File:VW heater connectors (annotated).jpg\|thumb]]		[[File:VW heater connectors (annotated) V2.jpg\|thumb]]

J0hannes: Added interlock passhtrough and updated pinmap

2024-10-12T16:18:07Z

Added interlock passhtrough and updated pinmap

← Older revision		Revision as of 16:18, 12 October 2024
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	* Pin 2 is GND		* Pin 2 is GND
	*Pin 4 is LIN		*Pin 4 is LIN
			*Pin 5 is HV Interlock loop passthrough (ref. right terminal highlighted with Blue in picture)
			*Pin 7 is HV interlock loop passthrough (ref. left terminal highlighted with Blue in picture)

Tom91: 3d scan added

2024-03-27T17:07:26Z

3d scan added

← Older revision		Revision as of 17:07, 27 March 2024
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	* Control via LIN by integrated electronics		* Control via LIN by integrated electronics
	* Temperature control by integrated sensor		* Temperature control by integrated sensor
			* 3d Scan: [https://grabcad.com/library/vw-egolf-gte-electric-water-heater-1 https://grabcad.com/]

Tom91: /* LIN Bus Communication */ Updated LIN frame details

2024-03-19T13:50:34Z

LIN Bus Communication: Updated LIN frame details

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	\|Control, every 50ms		\|Control, every 50ms
	\|2		\|2
	\|??		\|Enhanced
	\|Power		\|Power
	0-~~2530W~~		0-100%

	scale: ~~x10~~		scale: x1
	\| Last bit: Start/Stop		\| Last bit: Start/Stop
	\|		\|
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	\|Feedback		\|Feedback
	\|8		\|8
	\|??		\|Enhanced
	\|~~Power~~:		\|HV Current:
	~~13 = 770W~~		Unit: Amp
			Scale: 0.25
	~~26 = 1540W~~
	~~\|??~~
	~~\|??~~
	\|??		\|??
	\|??		\|??
	\|??		\|??
			\|LV Voltage:
			Unit: Volt
			Scale: 0.1
			\|Module Temp
			Unit: Celcius
			offset:-50
	\|Temperature in		\|Temperature in
			Unit: Celsius
			offset:-50
	\|Temperature out		\|Temperature out
			Unit: Celsius
			offset:-50
	\|}		\|}
	==VW Part Numbers==		==VW Part Numbers==

Jason arnold: /* General Information */ added in more info from datasheet (including connector part numbers), added annotated pinout photo

2024-01-04T05:03:23Z

General Information: added in more info from datasheet (including connector part numbers), added annotated pinout photo

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	[[File:VW heater.jpg\|thumb]]		[[File:VW heater.jpg\|thumb]]
	~~==General Information==~~

	==~~=Operating Voltage and Conditions ===~~		== General Information <ref>http://datasheets.dbk-worldwide.com/EN/Datasheets/WireHeaters/DBKITM_HV%20Water%20heater_eng.pdf (Backup: [http://web.archive.org/web/20221016161226/http://datasheets.dbk-worldwide.com/EN/Datasheets/WireHeaters/DBKITM_HV%20Water%20heater_eng.pdf Web Archive])</ref> ==
	~~280VDC...450VDC~~ <ref>http://datasheets.dbk-worldwide.com/EN/Datasheets/WireHeaters/DBKITM_HV%20Water%20heater_eng.pdf (Backup: [http://web.archive.org/web/20221016161226/http://datasheets.dbk-worldwide.com/EN/Datasheets/WireHeaters/DBKITM_HV%20Water%20heater_eng.pdf Web Archive])</ref>

	~~===Pinout ===~~		* Operating Voltage: 280VDC - 450VDC
			* Power: 5kW (7kW "boost" between 350-450V)
			* Control via LIN by integrated electronics
			* Temperature control by integrated sensor


	~~HV connector HVA 280 KEY_E from TE~~
	* +HV near to the body,

	*-HV far from the body		== Pinout/Connectors ==
			[[File:VW heater connectors (annotated).jpg\|thumb]]


	LV ~~Connector 1J0973714~~		HV connector: TE 4-2103177-5 (HVA 280 series - key "E")
			* HV+ near to the body,

			*HV- far from the body


			LV connector: TE 1-1394416-1

	* Pin 1 is permanent 12V		* Pin 1 is permanent 12V
	* Pin 2 is GND		* Pin 2 is GND
	*Pin 4 is LIN		*Pin 4 is LIN




	==LIN Bus Communication ==		==LIN Bus Communication ==
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	\|Temperature out		\|Temperature out
	\|}		\|}
	==Part Numbers==		==VW Part Numbers==

	~~VW heater P/N are:~~

	*3Q0963231A
	*3Q0963231C
	*3Q0963231E



			Heater:

			*3Q0 963 231 A
			*3Q0 963 231 C
			*3Q0 963 231 E


	~~HV cable P/N is 3Q0971475 or 5Q0971475.~~		Cable assemblies:

	LV ~~connector looks like it is Webasto 1J0973714 8P type.~~		* HV cable is 3Q0 971 475 or 5Q0 971 475
			* LV cable appears to be 1J0 973 714

	==References==		==References==

Tom91: /* LIN Bus Communication */

2023-07-02T21:11:41Z

LIN Bus Communication

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	\|Dec: 28		\|Dec: 28
	Hex: 0x1C		Hex: 0x1C

	PID: 0x9C		PID: 0x9C
	\|Control, every 50ms		\|Control, every 50ms
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	\|Dec: 48		\|Dec: 48
	Hex: 0x30		Hex: 0x30

	PID: 0xF0		PID: 0xF0
	\|Feedback		\|Feedback

Tom91: /* LIN Bus Communication */

2023-07-02T21:03:39Z

LIN Bus Communication

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	!Byte 7		!Byte 7
	\|-		\|-
	\|28		\|Dec: 28
			Hex: 0x1C
			PID: 0x9C
	\|Control, every 50ms		\|Control, every 50ms
	\|2		\|2
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	\|		\|
	\|-		\|-
	\|48		\|Dec: 48
			Hex: 0x30
			PID: 0xF0
	\|Feedback		\|Feedback
	\|8		\|8

← Older revision		Revision as of 16:20, 20 December 2024
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	==References==		==References==
	<references />		<references />
	~~[[Category:OEM]]~~		[[Category:VAG]]
	[[Category:VAG]]		[[Category:Heater Coolant]]
	[[Category:~~HVAC~~]]