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2024-12-20T16:48:43Z

Bigpie: /* The 'generator' */

2022-11-28T16:20:17Z

The 'generator'

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	\|'''Ld'''		\|'''Ld'''
	\|(used in the FOC firmware, Ld ~~- Lq~~ is a parameter)		\|0.1mH (used in the FOC firmware, Lq - Ld is a parameter)
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	\|'''Lq'''		\|'''Lq'''
	\|(used in the FOC firmware, Ld ~~- Lq~~ is a parameter)		\|0.3mH (used in the FOC firmware, Lq - Ld is a parameter)
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	\|'''Flux Linkage'''		\|'''Flux Linkage'''

Bigpie: /* The 'generator' */ Adding space for the Ld, Lq, flux linkage and Critical Current Values

2022-11-28T16:18:42Z

The 'generator': Adding space for the Ld, Lq, flux linkage and Critical Current Values

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 |'''Temperature Sensors'''
 |This has 2 temperature sensors on 2 of the phase coils and also an oil temperature sensor.
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Crasbe: Added categories and fixed the headlines

2022-06-28T22:26:23Z

Added categories and fixed the headlines

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	=== ~~Gearbox~~ ===		==Gearbox==

			Inside the gearbox is pretty simple, there's a parking brake and some gears. The clutch requires some oil pressure before it can be electrically engaged, ideally we want to be able to do this at 0 rpm to be able the achieve maximum torque at launch.

			[[File:Outlander Front Clutch.jpg\|thumb\|The internal clutch that couples the 'generator' input to the half shaft outputs.\|alt=]]
			[[File:20220616 153133.jpg\|thumb\|Outlander front gearbox.\|alt=]]

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			Specs and Reduction Ratios
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	!N·m		!N·m
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	=== The 'generator' ===		==The 'generator'==
	It looks like this is the motor that is sold by SLEVB as https://www.secondlife-evbatteries.com/70kw-ev-motor-with-14000rpm.html		It looks like this is the motor that is sold by SLEVB as https://www.secondlife-evbatteries.com/70kw-ev-motor-with-14000rpm.html

	Interestingly they claim it as ~~70kw~~, where as the motor as ~~60kw~~, both weigh the same.		Interestingly they claim it as 70kW, where as the motor as 60kW, both weigh the same.

	{\| class="wikitable"		{\| class="wikitable"
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			Specifications
	\|'''Weight'''		\|'''Weight'''
	\|29.5kg		\| 29.5kg
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	\|'''Type'''		\|'''Type'''
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	\|'''Suggested Firmware'''		\|'''Suggested Firmware'''
	\|Use Field Orientated Control (FOC) firmware		\|Use Field Orientated Control (FOC) firmware
	\|-		\|-
	\|'''Resolver Pole Count'''		\|'''Resolver Pole Count'''
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	\|This has 2 temperature sensors on 2 of the phase coils and also an oil temperature sensor.		\|This has 2 temperature sensors on 2 of the phase coils and also an oil temperature sensor.
	\|}		\|}

			==== Connector B-139 ====
	[[File:6-pin-outlander-phev-motor-connector.png\|frameless\|505x505px]]		[[File:6-pin-outlander-phev-motor-connector.png\|frameless\|505x505px]]

	* Pin 11 GTH1 - temperature in the U-phase coil (+ve)		*Pin 11 GTH1 - temperature in the U-phase coil (+ve)
	* Pin 12: GTH2 - temperature in the W-phase coil (+ve)		*Pin 12: GTH2 - temperature in the W-phase coil (+ve)
	* Pin 13: TH0 - oil temperature thermistor (+ve)		*Pin 13: TH0 - oil temperature thermistor (+ve)
	* Pin 14: GTG1 - temperature in the U-phase coil (-ve)		*Pin 14: GTG1 - temperature in the U-phase coil (-ve)
	* Pin 15: GTG2 - temperature in the W-phase coil (-ve)		*Pin 15: GTG2 - temperature in the W-phase coil (-ve)
	* Pin 16: TG0 - oil temperature thermistor (-ve)		*Pin 16: TG0 - oil temperature thermistor (-ve)

			=== Connector B-140 ===
	[[File:8-pin-outlander-phev-motor-connector.png\|frameless\|505x505px]]		[[File:8-pin-outlander-phev-motor-connector.png\|frameless\|505x505px]]

	* Pin 1: R1 - the first connection for the exciter coil. If you have the original connector this has a black wire. It should be connected to the exciter - EXC - on your control board.		*Pin 1: R1 - the first connection for the exciter coil. If you have the original connector this has a black wire. It should be connected to the exciter - EXC - on your control board.
	* Pin 2: S1 - the first connector for output coil 1. (Red on the original loom. Connect to ENCODER CHAN A on your control board)		*Pin 2: S1 - the first connector for output coil 1. (Red on the original loom. Connect to ENCODER CHAN A on your control board)
	* Pin 3: S2 - the first connector for output coil 2 (S2-1) (Yellow. Connect to ENCODER CHAN B)		*Pin 3: S2 - the first connector for output coil 2 (S2-1) (Yellow. Connect to ENCODER CHAN B)
	* Pin 4: R2 - the second connection for the exciter coil (White. Connect to GROUND)		*Pin 4: R2 - the second connection for the exciter coil (White. Connect to GROUND)
	* Pin 5: S3 - the second connection for output coil 1 (S1-2) (Green. Connect to RESOLVER SIN)		*Pin 5: S3 - the second connection for output coil 1 (S1-2) (Green. Connect to RESOLVER SIN)
	* Pin 6: S4 - the second connection for output coil 2 (S2-2) (Blue. Connect to RESOLVER COS)		*Pin 6: S4 - the second connection for output coil 2 (S2-2) (Blue. Connect to RESOLVER COS)
	* Pin 7: GGND - earth connection to the ECU		*Pin 7: GGND - earth connection to the ECU
	* Pin 8: Not used.		*Pin 8: Not used.

	Note: some after market plugs have the pin numberings reversed from the above. As I currently understand it, the numbering should be as per the diagram with pin 8 at the bottom right with the locking clip on the top when you are looking at the cable end of the plug.		Note: some after market plugs have the pin numberings reversed from the above. As I currently understand it, the numbering should be as per the diagram with pin 8 at the bottom right with the locking clip on the top when you are looking at the cable end of the plug.

	=== The motor ===		==The motor==

	It looks like this is the motor that is sold by SLEVB as https://www.secondlife-evbatteries.com/meiden-ev-motor-60kw-14000rpm-electric-project-emrax-replacement.html		It looks like this is the motor that is sold by SLEVB as https://www.secondlife-evbatteries.com/meiden-ev-motor-60kw-14000rpm-electric-project-emrax-replacement.html
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			Specifications
	\|'''Weight'''		\|'''Weight'''
	\|29.5kg		\|29.5kg
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	\|'''Suggested Firmware'''		\|'''Suggested Firmware'''
	\|Use Field Orientated Control (FOC) firmware		\|Use Field Orientated Control (FOC) firmware
	\|-		\|-
	\|'''Resolver Pole Count'''		\|'''Resolver Pole Count'''
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	\|[[File:20200802 080902.jpg\|none\|thumb]]		\|[[File:20200802 080902.jpg\|none\|thumb]]
	\|[[File:20200802 080907.jpg\|none\|thumb]]		\|[[File:20200802 080907.jpg\|none\|thumb]]
	\|[[File:20201124 214308.jpg\|thumb]]		\|[[File:20201124 214308.jpg\|thumb\|alt=\|none]]
	\|}		\|}

	=== Output Shafts ===		===Output Shafts===
	The generator and motor have a 19mm output shaft with 17 splines. This is a very close fit for the Ford Fiesta clutch. Model number 8V21-7550-DE or G44BA. Another part number also fits HD2392 from Fiesta 77-92, Escort III		The generator and motor have a 19mm output shaft with 17 splines. This is a very close fit for the Ford Fiesta clutch. Model number 8V21-7550-DE or G44BA. Another part number also fits HD2392 from Fiesta 77-92, Escort III

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	~~== The gearbox ==~~		==Build Logs using this motor==
	Inside the gearbox is pretty simple, there's a parking brake and some gears. The clutch requires some oil pressure before it can be electrically engaged, ideally we want to be able to do this at 0 rpm to be able the achieve maximum torque at launch.

	~~[[File:Outlander Front Clutch.jpg\|none\|thumb\|The internal clutch that couples the 'generator' input to the half shaft outputs.]]~~
	~~[[File:20220616 153133.jpg\|none\|thumb\|Outlander front gearbox.]]~~

	== Build Logs using this motor ==
	[https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=766 BMW Z3 with Prius gen 3 inverter mated to original gearbox]		[https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=766 BMW Z3 with Prius gen 3 inverter mated to original gearbox]

	[https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1130 VW Beetle with Prius gen 3 inverter mated to original gearbox]		[https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1130 VW Beetle with Prius gen 3 inverter mated to original gearbox]

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Bigpie: /* The gearbox */

2022-06-16T15:03:47Z

The gearbox

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	[[File:20201029 130555.jpg\|none\|thumb]]		[[File:20201029 130555.jpg\|none\|thumb]]


	== The gearbox ==		== The gearbox ==
	Inside the gearbox is pretty simple, there's a parking brake and some gears.		Inside the gearbox is pretty simple, there's a parking brake and some gears. The clutch requires some oil pressure before it can be electrically engaged, ideally we want to be able to do this at 0 rpm to be able the achieve maximum torque at launch.

	[[File:Outlander Front Clutch.jpg\|none\|thumb\|The internal clutch that couples the 'generator' input to the half shaft outputs.]]		[[File:Outlander Front Clutch.jpg\|none\|thumb\|The internal clutch that couples the 'generator' input to the half shaft outputs.]]

Bigpie at 15:02, 16 June 2022

2022-06-16T15:02:03Z

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	[[File:20201029 130555.jpg\|none\|thumb]]		[[File:20201029 130555.jpg\|none\|thumb]]

			== The gearbox ==
			Inside the gearbox is pretty simple, there's a parking brake and some gears.

			[[File:Outlander Front Clutch.jpg\|none\|thumb\|The internal clutch that couples the 'generator' input to the half shaft outputs.]]
			[[File:20220616 153133.jpg\|none\|thumb\|Outlander front gearbox.]]

	== Build Logs using this motor ==		== Build Logs using this motor ==

Bigpie at 07:40, 26 November 2021

2021-11-26T07:40:28Z

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	[[File:20201029 130555.jpg\|none\|thumb]]		[[File:20201029 130555.jpg\|none\|thumb]]

			== Build Logs using this motor ==
			[https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=766 BMW Z3 with Prius gen 3 inverter mated to original gearbox]

			[https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1130 VW Beetle with Prius gen 3 inverter mated to original gearbox]

Bobbycomelately: Updated resolver connection guide with references to original loom wiring colours and openinverter I/O

2021-07-04T08:33:24Z

Updated resolver connection guide with references to original loom wiring colours and openinverter I/O

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	[[File:8-pin-outlander-phev-motor-connector.png\|frameless\|505x505px]]		[[File:8-pin-outlander-phev-motor-connector.png\|frameless\|505x505px]]

	* Pin 1: R1 - the first connection for the exciter coil		* Pin 1: R1 - the first connection for the exciter coil. If you have the original connector this has a black wire. It should be connected to the exciter - EXC - on your control board.
	* Pin 2: S1 - the first connector for output coil 1		* Pin 2: S1 - the first connector for output coil 1. (Red on the original loom. Connect to ENCODER CHAN A on your control board)
	* Pin 3: S2 - the first connector for output coil 2 (S2-1)		* Pin 3: S2 - the first connector for output coil 2 (S2-1) (Yellow. Connect to ENCODER CHAN B)
	* Pin 4: R2 - the second connection for the exciter coil		* Pin 4: R2 - the second connection for the exciter coil (White. Connect to GROUND)
	* Pin 5: S3 - the second connection for output coil 1 (S1-2)		* Pin 5: S3 - the second connection for output coil 1 (S1-2) (Green. Connect to RESOLVER SIN)
	* Pin 6: S4 - the second connection for output coil 2 (S2-2)		* Pin 6: S4 - the second connection for output coil 2 (S2-2) (Blue. Connect to RESOLVER COS)
	* Pin 7: GGND - earth connection to the ECU		* Pin 7: GGND - earth connection to the ECU
	* Pin 8: Not used.		* Pin 8: Not used.

Bobby come lately: Fixed missing pictures on generator connections and reformatted pinout

2021-06-09T16:10:02Z

Fixed missing pictures on generator connections and reformatted pinout

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	\|This has 2 temperature sensors on 2 of the phase coils and also an oil temperature sensor.		\|This has 2 temperature sensors on 2 of the phase coils and also an oil temperature sensor.
	\|}		\|}
			[[File:6-pin-outlander-phev-motor-connector.png\|frameless\|505x505px]]

	~~[attachment=1]6~~-~~pin~~-~~outlander~~-~~phev~~-~~motor~~-~~connector.png[/attachment]~~		* Pin 11 GTH1 - temperature in the U-phase coil (+ve)
			* Pin 12: GTH2 - temperature in the W-phase coil (+ve)
			* Pin 13: TH0 - oil temperature thermistor (+ve)
			* Pin 14: GTG1 - temperature in the U-phase coil (-ve)
			* Pin 15: GTG2 - temperature in the W-phase coil (-ve)
			* Pin 16: TG0 - oil temperature thermistor (-ve)

	~~Pin 11 GTH1 - temperature in the U-phase coil (+ve)~~		[[File:8-pin-outlander-phev-motor-connector.png\|frameless\|505x505px]]
	~~Pin 12: GTH2 - temperature in the W-phase coil (+ve)~~
	~~Pin 13: TH0 - oil temperature thermistor (+ve)~~
	~~Pin 14: GTG1 - temperature in the U-phase coil (-ve)~~
	~~Pin 15~~: ~~GTG2~~ - ~~temperature in the W~~-~~phase coil (~~-~~ve)~~
	~~Pin 16: TG0~~ - ~~oil temperature thermistor (~~-~~ve)~~

	~~[attachment=0]8~~-~~pin~~-~~outlander~~-~~phev~~-~~motor~~-~~connector~~.~~png[/attachment]~~		* Pin 1: R1 - the first connection for the exciter coil
			* Pin 2: S1 - the first connector for output coil 1
			* Pin 3: S2 - the first connector for output coil 2 (S2-1)
			* Pin 4: R2 - the second connection for the exciter coil
			* Pin 5: S3 - the second connection for output coil 1 (S1-2)
			* Pin 6: S4 - the second connection for output coil 2 (S2-2)
			* Pin 7: GGND - earth connection to the ECU
			* Pin 8: Not used.

	~~Pin 1~~: ~~R1 -~~ the ~~first connection for~~ the ~~exciter coil~~		Note: some after market plugs have the pin numberings reversed from the above. As I currently understand it, the numbering should be as per the diagram with pin 8 at the bottom right with the locking clip on the top when you are looking at the cable end of the plug.
	~~Pin 2: S1 -~~ the ~~first connector for output coil 1~~
	~~Pin 3: S2 -~~ the ~~first connector for output coil 2 (S2-1)~~
	~~Pin 4: R2 -~~ the ~~second connection for~~ the ~~exciter coil~~
	~~Pin 5: S3 -~~ the ~~second connection for output coil 1 (S1-2)~~
	~~Pin 6: S4 -~~ the ~~second connection for output coil 2 (S2-2)~~
	~~Pin 7: GGND - earth connection to~~ the ~~ECU~~

	=== The motor ===		=== The motor ===

Bigpie: /* The motor */

2021-05-08T17:16:39Z

The motor

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	\|'''Motor Pole Count'''		\|'''Motor Pole Count'''
	\|8 (4 Pole pairs) ~~not confirmed~~		\|8 (4 Pole pairs)
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	\|'''Temperature Sensors'''		\|'''Temperature Sensors'''
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	\|'''Motor Pole Count'''		\|'''Motor Pole Count'''
	\|8 (4 Pole pairs) ~~not confirmed~~		\|8 (4 Pole pairs)
	\|-		\|-
	\|'''Temperature Sensor'''		\|'''Temperature Sensor'''

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	[https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1130 VW Beetle with Prius gen 3 inverter mated to original gearbox]		[https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1130 VW Beetle with Prius gen 3 inverter mated to original gearbox]

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