Mitsubishi Outlander DCDC OBC - Revision history

Marcexec: /* Pinout */ typos

2026-04-17T07:40:01Z

Pinout: typos

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	==DC-DC Converter==		==DC-DC Converter==
	The charger has an integrated DC-DC converter outputting a fixed voltage that seems to vary some between users. 14.5V is common value, but 14.35V and all the way up to 15V is reported. The converter requires battery voltage between 200V and 400V on the DC bus.		The charger has an integrated DC-DC converter outputting a fixed voltage that seems to vary some between users. 14.5V is a common value, but 14.35V and all the way up to 15V is reported. The converter requires battery voltage between 200V and 400V on the DC bus.

	<nowiki>*</nowiki>at about 397v the DCDC appears to stop operating via the enable lines. Currently untested if it continues via can. [https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=47144#p47144]		<nowiki>*</nowiki>at about 397v the DCDC appears to stop operating via the enable lines. Currently untested if it continues via can. [https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=47144#p47144]
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	Note: Although the above pin numbers, for the 13 pin external connector, match the Mitsubishi wiring diagram the numbers marked on the connector are reversed for each row. Pin 1 is CAN H (Black), pin 6 is NC (orange), pin 7 is CAN L (red ) and pin 13 Sense ( green ). IGCT +12V power should not be powered permanently, this will create problems for using the charger. Recommended to only have the ~~Charger~~ powered with Ignition on or charging.		Note: Although the above pin numbers, for the 13 pin external connector, match the Mitsubishi wiring diagram the numbers marked on the connector are reversed for each row. Pin 1 is CAN H (Black), pin 6 is NC (orange), pin 7 is CAN L (red ) and pin 13 Sense ( green ). IGCT +12V power should not be powered permanently, this will create problems for using the charger. Recommended to only have the charger powered with Ignition on or charging.

	Its not recommended to have ~~permeant~~ 12v supply to GND and IGCT as it will cause issues with the charger not functioning properly. recommended wiring with the ~~zombiverter~~ is as follows:		Its not recommended to have permanent 12v supply to GND and IGCT as it will cause issues with the charger not functioning properly. The recommended wiring with the ZombieVerter is as follows:

	* GND to ground		* GND to ground
	* SENSE to ~~permeant~~ 12v+		* SENSE to permanent 12v+
	* IGCT to switch 12v+ via a relay controlled by ~~an zombie~~ output pin set to "HVactive"		* IGCT to switch 12v+ via a relay controlled by a Zombie output pin set to "HVactive"
	* DC SW to ~~zombie~~ controlled IGN relay		* DC SW to Zombie controlled IGN relay

	~~this~~ ensures the DCDC only starts drawing HV after precharge is complete, and powers down the OBC when the HV system is off. ~~the zombie~~ must take care of the proximity pilot detection in order imitate charge mode, which will turn on the HV, ~~outlander dcdc~~, and start sending the correct CAN messages for charging.		This ensures the DCDC only starts drawing HV after precharge is complete, and powers down the OBC when the HV system is off. The Zombie must take care of the proximity pilot detection in order imitate charge mode, which will turn on the HV, Outlander DCDC, and start sending the correct CAN messages for charging.

	==== External Connector ====		==== External Connector ====
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	==== Internal Connector ====		==== Internal Connector ====
	[[File:Outlander DC-DC OBC Signal Connector.jpg\|thumb\|Empty Connector in Socket]]		[[File:Outlander DC-DC OBC Signal Connector.jpg\|thumb\|Empty Connector in Socket]]
	In case the ~~Charger~~ doesn't come with the signal pigtail (which it usually does), the internal signal connector is from the Hirose GT8E series<ref>https://www.hirose.com/de/product/document?clcode=CL0758-0051-6-00&productname=GT8E-12DS-HU&series=GT8E&documenttype=Catalog&lang=de&documentid=D49379_en (Backup: [http://web.archive.org/web/20230429103946/https://www.hirose.com/de/product/document?clcode=CL0758-0051-6-00&productname=GT8E-12DS-HU&series=GT8E&documenttype=Catalog&lang=de&documentid=D49379_en Web Archive])</ref>, specifically the Hirose GT8E-12DS-HU<ref>https://www.mouser.de/ProductDetail/798-GT8E-12DS-HU</ref> with Hirose GT8E-2022SCF<ref>https://www.mouser.de/ProductDetail/798-GT8E-2022SCF</ref> pins.		In case the charger doesn't come with the signal pigtail (which it usually does), the internal signal connector is from the Hirose GT8E series<ref>https://www.hirose.com/de/product/document?clcode=CL0758-0051-6-00&productname=GT8E-12DS-HU&series=GT8E&documenttype=Catalog&lang=de&documentid=D49379_en (Backup: [http://web.archive.org/web/20230429103946/https://www.hirose.com/de/product/document?clcode=CL0758-0051-6-00&productname=GT8E-12DS-HU&series=GT8E&documenttype=Catalog&lang=de&documentid=D49379_en Web Archive])</ref>, specifically the Hirose GT8E-12DS-HU<ref>https://www.mouser.de/ProductDetail/798-GT8E-12DS-HU</ref> with Hirose GT8E-2022SCF<ref>https://www.mouser.de/ProductDetail/798-GT8E-2022SCF</ref> pins.

Genieweenie: Added CAD model link

2026-03-24T15:16:37Z

Added CAD model link

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	3d scan cad file: https://grabcad.com/library/outlander-phev-charger-and-dcdc-1		3d scan cad file: https://grabcad.com/library/outlander-phev-charger-and-dcdc-1

			[https://grabcad.com/library/mitsubishi-outlander-obc-dcdc-1 CAD model]

Marcexec: /* Dimensions */

2026-01-15T15:41:43Z

Dimensions

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	* Width 270mm		* Width 270mm
	* Height 150mm		* Height 150mm
	* Weight 11.7kg~~/12.5kg~~		* Weight 12.5kg (W005T70271) / 11.7kg
	<gallery widths="500">		<gallery widths="500">
	File:Outlander phev charger dimensions.jpg\|Length		File:Outlander phev charger dimensions.jpg\|Length

Marcexec: /* Dimensions */

2026-01-15T15:24:43Z

Dimensions

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	* Width 270mm		* Width 270mm
	* Height 150mm		* Height 150mm
	* Weight 11.7kg		* Weight 11.7kg/12.5kg
	<gallery widths="500">		<gallery widths="500">
	File:Outlander phev charger dimensions.jpg\|Length		File:Outlander phev charger dimensions.jpg\|Length

Mitsuwiki: Add more information in the overview

2025-12-18T23:19:12Z

Add more information in the overview

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	The Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV ~~(2012-2018 models)~~ feature a ~~compact~~ CANBus controlled 3.~~7kw~~ charger suitable for budget EV conversions. Units can be bought for under ~~£200~~. Part numbers ~~are~~: W005T70271 (pre 2018) [https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=31366#p31366], W005T70272 (post 2018) [https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=23876#p23876]		The Mitsubishi i-MiEV, Outlander PHEV and Minicab MiEV feature a CANBus controlled 3.3 - 3.7kW charger suitable for budget EV conversions. Units out of the Outlander PHEV are most common and can be bought for under $100. The old 3.7kW versions from the i-MiEV (pre 2013) are known to fail often and need repair. Latest versions from the Outlander seem to have V2L capabilities<ref>https://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.au/blog/a-battery-on-wheels-why-EVs-can-do-more-than-just-take-you-places.html</ref>.

			Part numbers from the Outlander PHEV: W005T70271 (pre 2018) [https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=31366#p31366], W005T70272 (post 2018) [https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=23876#p23876]

Bratitude at 20:19, 9 December 2025

2025-12-09T20:19:28Z

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	Its not recommended to have permeant 12v supply to GND and IGCT as it will cause issues with the charger not functioning properly. recommended wiring with the zombiverter is as follows:		Its not recommended to have permeant 12v supply to GND and IGCT as it will cause issues with the charger not functioning properly. recommended wiring with the zombiverter is as follows:

	* GND to ~~gorund~~		* GND to ground
	* IGCT ~~is supplied~~ 12v via a relay ~~switch from a~~ zombie output set to HVactive		* SENSE to permeant 12v+
	* ~~SENSE is supplied 12v via the (~~zombie controlled~~) ign~~ relay.		* IGCT to switch 12v+ via a relay controlled by an zombie output pin set to "HVactive"
			* DC SW to zombie controlled IGN relay

	this ensures the DCDC only starts drawing HV after precharge is complete, and powers down the OBC when the HV system is off. the zombie must take care of the proximity pilot detection in order imitate charge mode, which will turn on the HV, outlander dcdc, and start sending the correct CAN messages for charging.		this ensures the DCDC only starts drawing HV after precharge is complete, and powers down the OBC when the HV system is off. the zombie must take care of the proximity pilot detection in order imitate charge mode, which will turn on the HV, outlander dcdc, and start sending the correct CAN messages for charging.

Bratitude at 19:50, 9 December 2025

2025-12-09T19:50:01Z

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	* GND to gorund		* GND to gorund
	* IGCT is supplied 12v via a relay switch from ~~the positive contactor~~ output ~~from the zombie~~		* IGCT is supplied 12v via a relay switch from a zombie output set to HVactive
	* SENSE is supplied 12v via the ign relay.		* SENSE is supplied 12v via the (zombie controlled) ign relay.

	this ensures the DCDC only starts drawing HV after precharge is complete, and powers down the OBC when the HV system is off. the zombie must take care of the proximity pilot detection in order imitate charge mode, which will turn on the HV, outlander dcdc, and start sending the correct CAN messages for charging.		this ensures the DCDC only starts drawing HV after precharge is complete, and powers down the OBC when the HV system is off. the zombie must take care of the proximity pilot detection in order imitate charge mode, which will turn on the HV, outlander dcdc, and start sending the correct CAN messages for charging.

Bratitude at 19:30, 9 December 2025

2025-12-09T19:30:52Z

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	Note: Although the above pin numbers, for the 13 pin external connector, match the Mitsubishi wiring diagram the numbers marked on the connector are reversed for each row. Pin 1 is CAN H (Black), pin 6 is NC (orange), pin 7 is CAN L (red ) and pin 13 Sense ( green ). IGCT +12V power should not be powered permanently, this will create problems for using the charger. Recommended to only have the Charger powered with Ignition on or charging.		Note: Although the above pin numbers, for the 13 pin external connector, match the Mitsubishi wiring diagram the numbers marked on the connector are reversed for each row. Pin 1 is CAN H (Black), pin 6 is NC (orange), pin 7 is CAN L (red ) and pin 13 Sense ( green ). IGCT +12V power should not be powered permanently, this will create problems for using the charger. Recommended to only have the Charger powered with Ignition on or charging.

	~~NOTE: If using the pp detect in zombie~~ to ~~perform charging, set interface~~ to ~~Chademo~~ as the ~~zombie code currently (~~as ~~of 28/10/24) assumed permanently powered, assuming your~~ IGCT is ~~wired into~~ a relay ~~that is triggered by Low~~ contactor output (and ~~DCDC enable powered by relay~~ on ~~high output)~~.		Its not recommended to have permeant 12v supply to GND and IGCT as it will cause issues with the charger not functioning properly. recommended wiring with the zombiverter is as follows:

			* GND to gorund
			* IGCT is supplied 12v via a relay switch from the positive contactor output from the zombie
			* SENSE is supplied 12v via the ign relay.

			this ensures the DCDC only starts drawing HV after precharge is complete, and powers down the OBC when the HV system is off. the zombie must take care of the proximity pilot detection in order imitate charge mode, which will turn on the HV, outlander dcdc, and start sending the correct CAN messages for charging.

	==== External Connector ====		==== External Connector ====

Sophiefxx: /* Dimensions */

2025-08-01T18:34:20Z

Dimensions

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	* Width 270mm		* Width 270mm
	* Height 150mm		* Height 150mm
			* Weight 11.7kg
	<gallery widths="500">		<gallery widths="500">
	File:Outlander phev charger dimensions.jpg\|Length		File:Outlander phev charger dimensions.jpg\|Length

Haand: Added some information regarding power capability. Also added another .dbc file link.

2025-04-22T18:13:47Z

Added some information regarding power capability. Also added another .dbc file link.

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	==DC-DC Converter==		==DC-DC Converter==
	The charger has an integrated DC-DC converter outputting a fixed 14.5V. The converter requires battery voltage between 200V and 400V on the DC bus.		The charger has an integrated DC-DC converter outputting a fixed voltage that seems to vary some between users. 14.5V is common value, but 14.35V and all the way up to 15V is reported. The converter requires battery voltage between 200V and 400V on the DC bus.

	<nowiki>*</nowiki>at about 397v the ~~dcdc~~ appears to stop operating via the enable lines. ~~currently~~ untested if it continues via can. [https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=47144#p47144]		<nowiki>*</nowiki>at about 397v the DCDC appears to stop operating via the enable lines. Currently untested if it continues via can. [https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=47144#p47144]

	To start the DC-DC converter, first to apply 12V to pin 7 and GND to pin 10. You also need to have its casing connected to common GND and 12V at the Pin 8 IGCT main power pin.		To start the DC-DC converter, first to apply 12V to pin 7 and GND to pin 10. You also need to have its casing connected to common GND and 12V at the Pin 8 IGCT main power pin.
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	The DCDC is capable of at least 1800W of power.		The DCDC is capable of at least 1800W of power. At moderate power levels, the internal temperature is not increased much.

	==Connections==		==Connections==
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	==Charge Control==		==Charge Control==
	There is no voltage adjustment only current so your controller needs to monitor output voltage and step the charge current. Regardless of the set current the pilot signal will limit the charge current automatically. The pilot signal duty cycle is available on the can bus.		There is no voltage adjustment only current so your controller needs to monitor output voltage and step the charge current. Regardless of the set current the pilot signal will limit the charge current automatically. The pilot signal duty cycle is available on the can bus.


			The OBC is capable of delivering 12A DC. Dependent on your system voltage, the power output may be limited below 3.7 kW. For example, for a 250V system, the power output is only 12*250 = 3kW.

	===CANBus Messages===		===CANBus Messages===
	[https://openinverter.org/forum/download/file.php?id=6649 Outlander Charger DBC File]		[https://openinverter.org/forum/download/file.php?id=6649 Outlander Charger DBC File]

			https://github.com/haand22/Mitsubishi_Outlander_PHEV.git

	The CANBus interface operates at 500kbps/100ms.		The CANBus interface operates at 500kbps/100ms.
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	0x285 alone will connect the EVSE but won't charge until you send 0x286. Byte 2 = 0xb6 pulls in the EVSE.		0x285 alone will connect the EVSE but won't charge until you send 0x286. Byte 2 = 0xb6 pulls in the EVSE.

	0x286 byte 2 sets the DC charge current, there is a voltage setting on byte 0 and 1. '''The requested current should be limited to 12A, going above this results in strange current delivery.'''		0x286 byte 2 sets the DC charge current, there is a voltage setting on byte 0 and 1. '''The requested current should be limited to 12A, going above this results in strange current delivery. If 13A is requested, charging does not even start.'''

	Charger will only start charging if EVSE CP is connected and requested current is below EVSE limit.		Charger will only start charging if EVSE CP is connected and requested current is below EVSE limit.