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Mitsubishi Outlander AC Compressor

2023-07-27T11:19:06Z

Zechy: Changed htm to html

The Outlander PHEV has a CAN bus controller AC compressor. '''One thing to note, your old system components will likely need flushing of the old oil as it's damaging to compressor motor wiring lacquer. It can cause shorts.''' When getting your system refilled, it needs to contain compatible lubricating oil, POE MA68EV is listed in the manual, likely the same as other hybrids/electric cars.
{| class="wikitable"
|+
|Weight
|6.2kg
|-
|Length
|19cm
|-
| Height
|20cm
|-
|Width
| 12cm
|}
3D scans are here: https://grabcad.com/library/outlander-phev-ac-compressor-1 this appears to be of an older model than the one in the photos below. The photos are from a 2018 model year vehicle.
{| class="wikitable"
|+
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|[[File:Height.jpg|alt=Height|none|thumb|Height]]
|[[File:Length.jpg|alt=Length|none|thumb|Length]]
|[[File:Width.jpg|alt=Width|none|thumb|Width]]
|}

=== Refrigerant Connections ===
The part numbers for the Mitsubishi hoses are ''AMD45418'', ''AMD46168. Unconfirmed, but thought that these fit'' https://www.evcreate.nl/shop/airconditioning/adapter-set-airconditioning-compressor/
The correct fitments on Aliexpress
[[File:20220818 123558.jpg|none|thumb|Outlander compressor hose connections]]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001688953296.html R134 4 curved and R134 5 curved was what I ordered, so 11.5mm and 14mm.
{| class="wikitable"
|+
|[[File:AC Connection.jpg|thumb]]
|[[File:AC Connection2.jpg|thumb]]
|}

===Low Voltage Connection===
The mating connector is Sumitomo 6189-0126 <nowiki>https://www.auto-click.co.uk/6189-0126?search=90980-10942</nowiki> and the pinout is the same as the water heater. Connector also available cheap on aliexpress.
[[File:Heater Connector Pins.png|none|thumb|1 - 12v, 2 - GND, 3 - CAN H, 4 - CAN L]]

=== High Voltage Connection ===
The compressor is connected with a 40amp fuse to high voltage.
Older models don't have the HV socket as shown above, but have the wire attached. Polarity is the same as the heater.
[[File:Outlander Heater HV.jpg|none|thumb]]

Newer models have a socket. [Place holder for part number]
[[File:20220712 131123.jpg|none|thumb|HV connector. Left is negative, right positive.]]
[[File:20220712 172319.jpg|none|thumb|AC compressor driver board.]]

===Control Messages===
0x185 controls the compressor and 0x285 is also required for operation, much like other outlander components. It broadcasts a few ids, 0x388 seems to be useful and contains it's status.

====0x185 - Control Message====
The first byte, byte 0 controls the state of the compressor 0x08 is standby and 0x0B is start command

The second byte, data[1] doesn't seem to have a function.

The third byte is unknown but 0x1D works.

The forth and fifth also seem to not do anything.

Sixth byte is RPM control, 0x08 is inactive, 0x09 to 0x54

Seventh is also unknown, 0x00 works

Eighth is also unknown either 0x00 or 0x03 work

====0x388 - Status Message ====
First byte, 0x01 is HV present. 0x02 is No HV present, 0x7C is startup/running.

Third and Fourth bytes seem to be RPM feedback.

Eighth byte status 0x00 is no CAN, 0x01 CAN error, 0x02 is 0x285 receive error and 0x03 other error

====Example control code ====
void sendCANframeE() { //AC compressor
outframe.id = 0x185; // 0x185 0B 00 1D 00 00 08 00 03
outframe.length = 8; // Data payload 8 bytes
outframe.extended = 0; // Extended addresses - 0=11-bit 1=29bit
outframe.rtr=1; //No request
if(digitalRead(AC_pin) == LOW) { //AC pin is active
outframe.data.bytes[0]=0x0B; // status command 08 stbd, 0B start
}
else {
outframe.data.bytes[0]=0x08; //if we sense LOW we go to standby
}
outframe.data.bytes[1]=0x00; //
outframe.data.bytes[2]=0x1D; // 1D works
outframe.data.bytes[3]=0x00; //
outframe.data.bytes[4]=0x00; //
if(digitalRead(AC_pin) == LOW) { // AC is active
if (ACrpm <= 3800) { // Power for spinup
outframe.data.bytes[5]=0x25; // RPM command 08 to 54
}
else if ((ACrpm > 3500) && (ACrpm <= 4200)) { // power is reduced
outframe.data.bytes[5]=0x20; // RPM command 08 to 54
}
}
else {
outframe.data.bytes[5]=0x08; //AC pin is inactive
}
outframe.data.bytes[6]=0x00;
outframe.data.bytes[7]=0x03; // can be 00 or 03, it does not differentiate
if(debug) {printFrame(&outframe,1);} //If the debug variable is set, show our transmitted frame
if(myVars.CANport==0) Can0.sendFrame(outframe); //Mail it
else Can1.sendFrame(outframe);

This thread contains more detail information and is recommended reading: https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1997&start=25
[[Category:OEM]]
[[Category:Mitsubishi]]
[[Category:HVAC]]

BMW Hybrid Battery Pack

2023-05-28T03:34:18Z

Zechy: I added an image that showing the high voltage connector pinout

In addition to the '''BMW 5 Series (G30) 530e''' the same battery pack can be found in the '''7 Series (G12) 740e''' as well as the '''X Series''' '''(F15) X5'''. These battery packs consist of six battery modules yielding 351 volts. The same battery modules can be found in the '''3 Series (F30) 330e''' but in a smaller form factor made up of only five modules and 293 volts.

[[File:Battery Location.jpg|thumb|The battery pack is located under the rear seat.|alt=|none]]

== First Gen (-2018) ==

The Electrical Energy Storage System in the 530e as well as the 740e has a code name of SP06 and a capacity of 26 Ah.

== Second Gen (2019-present) ==

The newer SP41 high-voltage battery was installed in the G30 as well as the G12 Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicles starting in July of 2019. It has the same basic design as the SP06. The most significant change is the cell capacity increase from 26 Ah to 34 Ah.

== Technical Specifications ==
{| class="wikitable"
|+
!Technical data
!5 Series G30 PHEV (SP06)
-2018
!5 Series G30 PHEV (SP41)
2019-2022
|-
|Voltage
|351.4 V (nominal voltage)
|355 V (nominal voltage)
|-
|Voltage Range
|Min. 269 V – Max. 398 V
|Min. 269 V – Max. 403 V
|-
|Battery cells
|Lithium-ion
|Lithium-ion
|-
|Number of battery cells
|96 in series
|96 in series
|-
|Number of cell modules
|6
|6
|-
|Cell voltage
|3.66 V
|3.70 V
|-
|Capacitance
|26 Ah
|34 Ah
|-
|Storable amount of energy
|9.2 kWh
|12 kWh
|-
|Usable energy
|7.4 kWh
|10.4 kWh
|-
|Max. power (discharge)
|83 kW (short-term)
|83 kW (short-term)
|-
|Maximum power (AC charging)
|3.7 kW
|3.7 kW
|-
|Weight
|248 lbs / 112.5 kg (without retaining brackets)
|261 lbs / 118.4kg (without retaining brackets)
|-
|Dimensions
|541 mm x 1134 mm x 271 mm
|541 mm x 1134 mm x 271 mm
|-
|Cooling system
|Refrigerant R1234yf
|Refrigerant R1234yf
|-
|Individual Module Dimensions
|364*183*110mm (L/W/H) without BMS attached
(add c. 25mm to length or height of module for BMS)
|
|}

== Battery Management System, BMS ==
There is a SimpBMS version available on GitHub called '''BMWPhevBMS''' https://github.com/Tom-evnut/BMWPhevBMS created by Tome de Bree.

=== Wiring/pinouts ===
When using SimpBMS, the original BMW BMS master module should be unplugged (blue plug). This plug should instead be used to power the BMS slave modules and for the CAN connection to slave modules. See pinout below.

It's important to note that each plug in the wiring harness has an 'in' and an 'out' pin. I.e., the 5V, GND, and CAN connections are chained from one slave module to the next. So, if for some reason you have one of the slave modules unplugged, you may need to jumper the pins in that plug or else the modules further down the chain may not work.
{| class="wikitable"
|+Blue plug pinout
!Pin
!Function
!Note
|-
|1
|CAN H
|
|-
|2
|CAN L
|
|-
|3
|
|
|-
|4
|
|
|-
|5
|5V
|Apply 5V here to power the slave modules
|-
|6
|GND
|
|-
|7
|CAN H
|
|-
|8
|CAN L
|
|-
|9
|
|
|-
|10
|
|
|-
|11
|5V
|Apply 5V here to power the slave modules
|-
|12
|GND
|
|}

== Part Numbers<ref>Forum Reference: https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=709</ref> ==
and here's how the six cell modules are connected together with the high voltage orange wires
[[File:High Voltage Cables.jpg|thumb|High Voltage Cables|alt=|none]]

<nowiki>#</nowiki>1 Part Number: 61278621016 Main Negative (runs from Cell Module #1 to the Safety Box #8 front connector)

<nowiki>#</nowiki>2 Part Number: 61278621017 Connects Cell Module #2 to Cell Module #3

<nowiki>#</nowiki>3 Part Number: 61278621018 Connects Cell Module #3 to Cell Module #4

<nowiki>#</nowiki>4 Part Number:61278621019 Connects Cell Module #4 to Cell Module #5

<nowiki>#</nowiki>? Part Number:??????????? Connects Cell Module #5 to Cell Module #6

<nowiki>#</nowiki>5 Part Number: 61278621020 Main Positive (runs from Cell Module #6 to the Safety Box #7 front connector)

<nowiki>#</nowiki>6 Part Number: 61278618444 Connects Cell Module #1 to Cell Module #2

<nowiki>===========================================================</nowiki>

<nowiki>#</nowiki>7 Part Number: 61278650791 External Connector Positive

<nowiki>#</nowiki>8 Part Number: 61278650793 External Connector Negative

=== Pinout - Main battery connector ===

=== Pin assignments at plug connector A332*1B ===
{| class="wikitable"
!Pin
!Type
!Description /Signal type
!Connection /Measuring information
|-
|1
|E
|Supply, terminal 30
|Power distribution box, rear
|-
|2
|E
|High-voltage interlock loop signal
|Electric-machine electronics
|-
|3
|E
|Terminal 30c signal
|Connector, terminal 30C
|-
|4
| --
|Not used
|
|-
|5
| --
|Not used
|
|-
|6
| --
|Not used
|Yellow/Green wire inside battery - Use unknown
|-
|7
| --
|Not used
|
|-
|8
| --
|Not used
|
|-
|9
| --
|Not used
|
|-
|10
|A
|Supply
|Refrigerant shutoff valve, high-voltage battery unit
|-
|11
|A
|Activation
|Refrigerant shutoff valve, high-voltage battery unit
|-
|12
|M
|Ground
|Ground point
|-
|13
|E/A
|K-CAN bus signal L
|K-CAN5 bus connection
|-
|14
|E/A
|K-CAN bus signal H
|K-CAN5 bus connection
|-
|15
| --
|K-CAN bus signal L
|Put a 120Ohm resistor across these to terminate pack
|-
|16
| --
|K-CAN bus signal H
|Put a 120Ohm resistor across these to terminate pack
|-
|17
| --
|Not used
|
|-
|18
| --
|Not used
|
|-
|19
| --
|Not used
|
|-
|20
| --
|Not used
|
|-
|21
| --
|Not used
|
|-
|22
| --
|Not used
|
|-
|23
|E
|High-voltage interlock loop signal
|High-voltage safety connector
|-
|24
| --
|Not used
|
|}

=== Temperature Sensors ===
The temperature sensors used in the hybrid battery packs are NTC 100k/4.4 and 10k/3.4 <ref>Forum Reference: https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=36640#p36640</ref>.

=== S-Box ===
The BMW Hybrid Battery Pack contains a module that contains contactors and a shunt which is known as a Control Unit Module Security Fuse Box, S-Box PHEV BK, or S-Box that is now supported by the ZombieVerter. There are S-Boxes available in a number of the BMW PHEV models.
[[File:BMW S-box.jpg|alt=BMW S-Box|thumb|453x453px|BMW S-Box]]
Part numbers include 8686893, 8638197, 8651068, 8681536, 8844217, 9470054, 9846612, found in the following PHEV models:

* 2 Series F45 Active Tourer LCI
* 3 Series G20
* 3 Series G20 LCI
* 3 Series G21
* 3 Series G21 LCI
* 5 Series G30
* 5 Series G30 LCI
* 5 Series G31 LCI
* 5 Series G38
* 5 Series G38 LCI
* [[File:SBOX.jpg|thumb|BMW S-Box High voltage connection]]7 Series G11 LCI
* 7 Series G12 LCI
* X1 F48 LCI
* X1 F49
* X1 F49 LCI
* X2 F39
* X3 G01
* X3 G01 LCI
* X5 F15
* X5 G05
* MINI Countryman F60
* MINI Countryman F60 LCI

Damien's notes:

Four heavy duty spade terminals provide connection for HV Battery + , - and Output + ,-

Connection of Can data and 12v power is via a white 16 pin connector on the front.

Pins 12 and 14 to +12v

Pin 3 to GND

Pin 1 CANH

Pin 10 CANL

CAN is 500K speed.

Two ids are required to run the SBox and control its contactors:

0x100 and 0x300 DLC 4 at 20ms intervals.

0x100 has a counter and CRC8 and is the main control message.

Byte 0 controls contactor function as follows :

0x62 Activates negative contactor

0x0A Activates positive contactor

0x8A Activates positive contactor and precharge relay

0xA6 Activates negative contactor and precharge relay

0x62 Activates negative and positive contactors and precharge relay

0x86 Activates precharge relay only.

Other combinations of bits in byte 0 will cause individual contactors and combinations of contactors and precharge relay to engage.

Byte 1: Counter in upper nibble running from 0x0 to 0xE. Lower nibble fixed at 0x1.Function not yet investigated.

Byte 2: fixed at 0xFF. Function not yet investigated.

Byte 3: CRC8 , Poly 0x31 ,Initial value 0x00, final XOR 0x00 , inverse both. Calculated on length of 8 bytes while message is only 4 bytes long.

0x300 can be static:

0xFF , 0xFE , 0xFF , 0xFF

Information such as Battery voltage, Current, Output voltage etc are provided over CAN making it a very versatile unit. Messages for Ah,kwh,kw etc are being investigated.

More information is available on Damien's GitHub - https://github.com/damienmaguire/BMW_SBox

== References ==
<references />
[[Category:OEM]] [[Category:BMW]] [[Category:Battery]]

File:SBOX.jpg

2023-05-28T03:31:53Z

Zechy:

High voltage pinout