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Electric Mazda RX-8 using 2015 toyota Avalon hybrid inveter

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:31 am
by Dylan Witt
has anyone made a board for the 2015 Toyota avalon Hybrid inverter? i am in the middle of building a electric car with the hybrid transmission, now im stuck trying to figure out how to drive the inverter, i see the prius gen 3 and lexus inverters but because i got this Avalon as a wrecked car for this project it was cheaper that buying all of the other parts from a prius, plus it is the performance version to, so i should be able to get more torque from the motors. could anyone help me? i know damien was working on the boards earlier this year for a release, do you know if the two inverters are the same, i have a youtube video where im slowly panning the camera around the 2015 toyota avalon hybrids inverter control board.

Re: Electric Mazda RX-8 using 2015 toyota Avalon hybrid inveter

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:01 pm
by xp677
I had to find your video to see which inverter you have:



This looks similar to (but not identical to) an IS300h inverter. What is the part number? We didn't get the Avalon in europe.

Differences I can see at a first glance is two safety plug connectors for the motor cable lid vs 1 for the IS, and of course the mirrored connections for a LHD car.

If the unit is electrically the same as the IS, then Damien has already created a controller for it:

https://github.com/damienmaguire/Lexus-IS300H-Inverter
https://www.evbmw.com/index.php/evbmw-w ... board-copy

Not sure how far through the development this is. Never mind, looks like it's up and working!

Re: Electric Mazda RX-8 using 2015 toyota Avalon hybrid inveter

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:10 pm
by Jack Bauer
Yeah that's and is300 inverter logic board for sure. Running one in the De-Ranged rover here:
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=318

Info on github :
https://github.com/damienmaguire/Lexus-IS300H-Inverter

Basic board but proven working the range rover :
https://www.evbmw.com/index.php/evbmw-w ... board-copy

Re: Electric Mazda RX-8 using 2015 toyota Avalon hybrid inveter

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:11 pm
by Jack Bauer
ah you beat me to it:)

Re: Electric Mazda RX-8 using 2015 toyota Avalon hybrid inveter

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:13 pm
by xp677
Jack Bauer wrote: Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:11 pm ah you beat me to it:)
Sorry! I went back and edited it in after flicking through your Github ;)

Do you have a BOM available for this?

Re: Electric Mazda RX-8 using 2015 toyota Avalon hybrid inveter

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:29 am
by Dylan Witt
another question is, how would i wire the throttle, brake pedal sensor, and other sensors to the inverter control baord? sorry im new, i have posted a few things on the diy electric vehicles facebook group. not sure if i need to be added to another group.

Re: Electric Mazda RX-8 using 2015 toyota Avalon hybrid inveter

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:58 am
by Kevin Sharpe
Dylan Witt wrote: Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:29 am another question is, how would i wire the throttle, brake pedal sensor, and other sensors to the inverter control baord?
Please review the wiki, Damien's GitHub, and his YouTube channel. This is very much a self help process in the first instance :)

Re: Electric Mazda RX-8 using 2015 toyota Avalon hybrid inveter

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:22 pm
by Jack Bauer
Yep , plenty of info on here so dive in. I don't have a bom for that board as it was only really for testing but to my surprise works:)

Re: Electric Mazda RX-8 using 2015 toyota Avalon hybrid inveter

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:58 am
by Dylan Witt
thank you, i need to start researching cause this electric car project is getting closer to being built

Re: Electric Mazda RX-8 using 2015 toyota Avalon hybrid inveter

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 5:49 am
by Dylan Witt
where do i get the BOM files and PLC files for the is300h board?

Re: Electric Mazda RX-8 using 2015 toyota Avalon hybrid inveter

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 5:52 am
by Dylan Witt
Jack Bauer yes id like to get those files please, i will be testing the inverter as soon as i can get a control board, came from a running hybrid, only a few more wees left on my build. working on a battery deal.3700 spim08hp cells

Re: Electric Mazda RX-8 using 2015 toyota Avalon hybrid inveter

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 4:09 pm
by Isaac96
https://github.com/damienmaguire/Lexus-IS300H-Inverter

In DesignSpark at least you can generate a BOM by opening the .pcb file and hitting the 'BOM Quote" button in the top right corner.

Re: Electric Mazda RX-8 using 2015 toyota Avalon hybrid inveter

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 4:34 pm
by Dylan Witt
what about plc file?

Re: Electric Mazda RX-8 using 2015 toyota Avalon hybrid inveter

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 4:35 pm
by Dylan Witt
cpl file

Re: Electric Mazda RX-8 using 2015 toyota Avalon hybrid inveter

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 5:14 pm
by Dylan Witt
Isaac96 wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 4:09 pm https://github.com/damienmaguire/Lexus-IS300H-Inverter

In DesignSpark at least you can generate a BOM by opening the .pcb file and hitting the 'BOM Quote" button in the top right corner.
okay i feel dumb, what about component placement list?

Re: Electric Mazda RX-8 using 2015 toyota Avalon hybrid inveter

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 6:18 pm
by Kevin Sharpe
Dylan Witt wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 5:14 pm okay i feel dumb, what about component placement list?
Looks like the DesignSpark website has a support section including an article entitled "how can I generate a pick and place file?"

https://designspark.zendesk.com/hc/en-u ... lace-file-

Re: Electric Mazda RX-8 using 2015 toyota Avalon hybrid inveter

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 3:47 pm
by Dylan Witt
update on the electric mazda, i have axles connecting from the toyota drivetrain to the mazda wheel hubs, this video is right before i had the axles made

Re: Electric Mazda RX-8 using 2015 toyota Avalon hybrid inveter

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 4:03 pm
by Kevin Sharpe
Dylan Witt wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 3:47 pm update on the electric mazda
Great video :)

Re: Electric Mazda RX-8 using 2015 toyota Avalon hybrid inveter

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 4:05 am
by Dylan Witt
change of plans for the electric mazda rx8, i will be running a gen three prius inverter. i cant seem to get the right information for the is300h board. so ill go with one that is available on the webshop. i will end up using a gen two inverter to charge the battery, 340 volts 176AH. unless i could get an email sent to me of the board for the is300h and related items to get jlcpcb to build me two of them, then i may just stay with the gen three prius inverter

Re: Electric Mazda RX-8 using 2015 toyota Avalon hybrid inveter

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 11:47 am
by Kevin Sharpe
Dylan Witt wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 4:05 am i cant seem to get the right information for the is300h board.
If the information you need is not already published then it's very high risk pursuing a solution on your own if you do not have the relevant electronics skills. Remember this is a community support endeavour and we can only do so much :|

If you need an open inverter solution with guaranteed support then the boards sold by Johannes in the shop are the only option today;

https://openinverter.org/shop/index.php ... duct_id=61

Re: Electric Mazda RX-8 using 2015 toyota Avalon hybrid inveter

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 9:17 pm
by MattsAwesomeStuff
Don't use both a Gen 2 and Gen 3 inverter. They both can be used for battery charging, as they contain multiple inverters.

Re: Electric Mazda RX-8 using 2015 toyota Avalon hybrid inveter

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:13 pm
by Dylan Witt
my ideal behind using both inverters, i want to use the gen 3 for both mg1 and mg2, so i actully need another for a charger. update on the gen three inverter after damien blew the capacitor,i have that is300h inverter im thinking of using the capacitors from the is300h on the prius gen 3 inverter. although the is300h has better cooling and was intended for a performance vehicle compared to the prius. any ideals on what i should be using?

Re: Electric Mazda RX-8 using 2015 toyota Avalon hybrid inveter

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 6:03 am
by Dylan Witt
ive ordered the control board from evbmw soon the electric Mazda rx8 will be moving with its own electronics, i have been using a 1500 watt e bike controller to move the car around about 3mph max on 72 volts
i still dont understand how ill be able to get a higher speed from the prius inverter at only 225 volts using four Prius nimh batteries or 320 once i get funds to buy my lithium battery's, i guess frequency plays a large part in being able to speed the electric motors up

Re: Electric Mazda RX-8 using 2015 toyota Avalon hybrid inveter

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:38 am
by Dylan Witt
once i get the control board from Damien we should see a electric mazda rx8




Re: Electric Mazda RX-8 using 2015 toyota Avalon hybrid inveter

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:40 am
by kalebludlow
Dylan Witt wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 5:52 am 3700 spim08hp cells
What are you doing with the cells you don't need?