Re: 1965 Ford Mustang
Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 10:14 am
Hey,rstevens81 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 12:06 pm There are some things to think about in allowing a BMS to control contactors and BMS code in general ....
1. Given that car is a very electrically and efm noisy environment a watchdog in the code is imperative because if the chip locks up you loose BMS, so therefore a watchdog to reboot it in that event is imperative.
2. The behaviour of the watchdog is also important...i.e. if it were to lock up and reboot what would happen would the contactors open and then close again? Under load this would substantially reduce the life of the contactors even the big ones. That's not all of the failure modes but a big one to illustrate the point.
3. Opening of contactors under load is always going to be bad for them and everything connected as electricity under load is like flowing water through a pipe if you suddenly stop it in a pipe you get hammershock the clunk noise you hear in pipes if you have an old house, in electrics the inductance of the circuit (wires) will try to raise voltage whilst you disconnect to make a bigger spark on the contactor, how big of an effect this is I don't know but point was also that a false flag will substantially reduce life of contactor.
I am aiming for a different approach it may not be right but is simpler in my mind as the simpler it is the less we have to think this may or not be useful...
1. Contactors controlled by VCU, when starting the switch on process just add a line of code the check the voltage dela...tbh it probably can be quite simple in that if your cell voltage delta is above X mV (of all 192 cells) you go into error or warning state and you just chech for error or warning before switching on.
2. If so etching goes wrong you enter a warning state a buzzer sounds if after 10 seconds (arbitrary to allow you to pull to side of road and switch off ignition) if after this X seconds the inverter is commanded to shut down and then commanded to open contactors.
Although this isn't perfect what situations would 10 seconds not be enough and if so could you skip the warning stage and go straight to powering down inverter?
Hope this is helpful in someway ... It all stems from the age old problem who is the biggest master BMS or VCU/inverter? You sorta have to choose 1 and live with the consequence and work round it to the best you can i.e. if you were to choose BMS as master it would tell the inverter to shutdown X seconds before it would open the contactors.
Hey, sorry, I missed this somehow. To be honest my gs300 has been sitting untouched on the garage floor for months. I have lots of other work to do on the car until I get to the stage of spinning the wheels. For example, replacing rusted out floorsJacobsmess wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 8:01 pm Just for clarification, I was hoping you might be able to provide some information on the RPM from the gearbox output at different voltages.
Keep at it. Someday you'll have a gorgeous classic to tool around in!chrskly wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 10:59 am Hey, sorry, I missed this somehow. To be honest my gs300 has been sitting untouched on the garage floor for months. I have lots of other work to do on the car until I get to the stage of spinning the wheels. For example, replacing rusted out floors
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That's the hopePatrcioEV-ATX wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 1:21 pm Keep at it. Someday you'll have a gorgeous classic to tool around in!
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Oh wow, I't looks like it may have been easier to build a new car from scratch haha. At least you can honestly say that you've touched every single nut and bolt on the car.
Some people are just cursed with good taste i guess.rstevens81 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 7:40 pm I would say your in good company![]()
It's the slight problem when you choose the car you want not just something that's randomly cheap.
In the long run its probably just easier to relocate the batteries rather than trying to add strength to rear of the car. They will actually fit quite well above the rear axle too as it turns out.