Thanks for noting this, the Prius 3 is still not fully worked out. Luckily we resolved some issues so it should be ready for a driving vehicle and more testing.
Quite some copy pasting going on between the GS450h and Prius Gen3 and IS300h. Surprised things are just working
Re: 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:07 am
by Gregski
Passenger side CV Axle joiningship
Re: 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:30 am
by Gregski
Paint It Black And Put It Back !
Re: 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:33 am
by Gregski
well this really urks the Greg, apparently the Prius transaxle butt ie it's differential is offset to the passenger side, so by putting the transaxle in the middle of the motor bay, now the driver side drive axle (pictured on top) is longer than the passenger side
Can the Greg ignore this or will he abandon the entire build and buy a Tesla?
Re: 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:49 am
by Gregski
don't tell nobody but this ol' Rabbit is a fun little car to work on
I hope the angles will de-extreme themselves once the axles are no longer drooping and are under load
Re: 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:35 am
by MattsAwesomeStuff
I've heard that when joining axles the wrong way, to never cut them square. You cut them at 45 degree angles. That way if the weld seam shatters, they're still forced to spin each other, where a square cut would not.
Re: 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:44 pm
by Gregski
MattsAwesomeStuff wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:35 am
I've heard that when joining axles the wrong way, to never cut them square. You cut them at 45 degree angles. That way if the weld seam shatters, they're still forced to spin each other, where a square cut would not.
I know of two ways to join CV axles... and both of them are wrong!
Re: 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:45 pm
by Gregski
Electric VW Rabbit First Wheel Spin
Re: 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 3:49 pm
by Alibro
Gregski wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:33 am
well this really urks the Greg, apparently the Prius transaxle butt ie it's differential is offset to the passenger side, so by putting the transaxle in the middle of the motor bay, now the driver side drive axle (pictured on top) is longer than the passenger side
Can the Greg ignore this or will he abandon the entire build and buy a Tesla?
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I think it is pretty common for the two drive shafts to be different lengths in FWD cars.
Re: 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:24 pm
by lsh3rd
Alibro wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 3:49 pm
I think it is pretty common for the two drive shafts to be different lengths in FWD cars.
Correct... the car the transaxle came out of is this way... except it's much longer on the passenger side.
Re: 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 6:31 pm
by Gregski
lsh3rd wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:24 pm
Correct... the car the transaxle came out of is this way... except it's much longer on the passenger side.
thank you gentlemen, it appears the Greg has over corrected
Re: 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 7:17 pm
by arber333
Gregski wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:30 am
Paint It Black And Put It Back !
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That looks really good!
Hm... did you accoount for the movement of the loaded axle? It should have like 0.5cm movement in its loaded position. Just saying because i didnt think of that the first time and i had to shave the CV side down on the lathe!!!
Hm... did you accoount for the movement of the loaded axle? It should have like 0.5cm movement in its loaded position. Just saying because i didnt think of that the first time and i had to shave the CV side down on the lathe!!!
yes sir, I installed them while the Prius inner CV joints were in the cups in what I call neutral position meaning they could go in at least one inch and travel out one inch as well
I just checked the angles the and driver side is at 9° which I can live with but the passenger is at 11.5° and I recall reading somewhere that 12° is the most they can tolerate
the reason I pushed the envelope on those angles is because I moched up the transaxle location without the "cups" in it because mine did not come with them, well once the cups are installed they protrude an additional 5" or so either way aka left and right
these are the cups I keep referring to, I scored these later from another junkyard
We're now tied. If you ignore that my inverter isn't mounted and I don't have a battery pack, or a windshield, or doors, or that mine has never run outside of manual mode and never with the pedal, then it's a tie!
I might still be ahead of you on brakes and mistakes though.
Re: 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE
Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:47 am
by jrbe
MattsAwesomeStuff wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:14 am
I might still be ahead of you on breaks and mistakes though.
We're now tied. If you ignore that my inverter isn't mounted and I don't have a battery pack, or a windshield, or doors, or that mine has never run outside of manual mode and never with the pedal, then it's a tie!
I might still be ahead of you on brakes and mistakes though.
Ha ha, if brakes and mistakes were an Olympic event, I'm pretty sure we both would end up on the podium
Re: 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE
Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 1:34 pm
by Gregski
Electric VW Rabbit VCU Bracket
this is my hammer, and this is my backup hammer
I am very pretty proud of myself how this turned out... [eventually]
Re: 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE
Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 1:43 pm
by Gregski
and she's in
"laces out" ie header / connector pointed down so that agua don't get inside of it
I am sooooo tempted to snip all these "extra" [pronounced: I have no idea what they do] wires
Re: 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE
Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 1:50 pm
by Gregski
with less than 10 days left till our Randomly Made-up Conversion Deadline aka the RMuCD
... we got another thing checked off our list
Re: 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE
Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 1:51 pm
by tom91
Gregski wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 1:43 pm
I am sooooo tempted to snip all these "extra" [pronounced: I have no idea what they do] wires
This connector is easy to de pin, just get the TPA cover off, short sides small screw driver or de pinning tool and should come up easily. Then two bars on each of side of the pins, small pressure on the wire when doing it ensures it stays released so you can do one side at a time.
tom91 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 1:51 pm
This connector is easy to de pin, just get the TPA cover off, short sides small screw driver or de pinning tool and should come up easily. Then two bars on each of side of the pins, small pressure on the wire when doing it ensures it stays released so you can do one side at a time.
you are a friggen life safer... [ sets the Sawzall back down ]
Re: 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE
Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 2:48 pm
by Gregski
working on a Logo, because that's important
Re: 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE
Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 2:50 pm
by robertwa
Agree, harvest those extra leads and you may have enough extra to only need to buy the cheaper bare connector for your next conversion
Re: 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE
Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 2:56 pm
by Gregski
robertwa wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 2:50 pm
Agree, harvest those extra leads and you may have enough extra to only need to buy the cheaper bare connector for your next conversion
stop reading my mind, I just bought that extra plain connector Tom recommended, my OCD could not handle having a black permanent 12 volt power lead, we must shuffle the colors around or else we loose the shop