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Re: [WIP] BMW Z3
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:12 am
by andybpowell
Woodfie wrote: โThu Feb 01, 2024 3:23 am
Do you have a measure the Amps drawn on the bus at 45 MPH ?
Also voltage.... Thanks.
No sorry it was just a quick test run to make sure I hadn't done anything stupid

Re: [WIP] BMW Z3
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:27 am
by Woodfie
Understood, however if you have a chance to re run, would be of great interest.
Am starting to lean towards some non irreversible way of locking the 3.3 reduction, and do some road assessment, as one feasible way if utilizing the L210 in my application.
Re: [WIP] BMW Z3
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:58 am
by andybpowell
Woodfie wrote: โThu Feb 01, 2024 9:27 am
Understood, however if you have a chance to re run, would be of great interest.
Am starting to lean towards some non irreversible way of locking the 3.3 reduction, and do some road assessment, as one feasible way if utilizing the L210 in my application.
if the weather holds I can probably do some testing at the weekend
Re: [WIP] BMW Z3
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 4:40 pm
by andybpowell
So I didn't get any of the promised testing done on the car after the post on thursday as I injured my back and have been layed up ever since but I'm feeling almost human again so will try to get something done tomorrow if the weathers reasonable
Re: [WIP] BMW Z3
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 4:48 pm
by Alibro
andybpowell wrote: โSun Feb 04, 2024 4:40 pm
So I didn't get any of the promised testing done on the car after the post on thursday as I injured my back and have been layed up ever since but I'm feeling almost human again so will try to get something done tomorrow if the weathers reasonable
Bummer mate, being an auld crock is a pain.

Re: [WIP] BMW Z3
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:12 pm
by andybpowell
Alibro wrote: โSun Feb 04, 2024 4:48 pm
Bummer mate, being an auld crock is a pain.
what's a pain is it was self inflicted, overdoing it in the gym

Re: [WIP] BMW Z3
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 12:35 pm
by andybpowell
sadly my backs still giving me grief so not much progress built a new board to control the ancillaries and did a little testing
bear in mind this is with the wheels off the ground so no real load this equated to 50Mph

Re: [WIP] BMW Z3
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 7:30 pm
by rstevens81
Re: [WIP] BMW Z3
Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 3:22 pm
by andybpowell
Took the car for a spin on the road today it was only a side road so nothing too enthusiastic I'm afraid
the first half of the first two logs is uphill the second is downhill
I'm having an issue with some totally unrealistic temperature spikes on the heatsink causing errors as can be seen in this last plot it goes from a stable 18-24 Deg to 5500 Deg which is obviously not a true reading
I also tested Jamies new code for the brake booster which is working perfectly
as for performance it feels far smoother and faster and quieter than it did with the leaf motor but my Gearbox the leaf was coupled to was shot

Re: [WIP] BMW Z3
Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 6:21 pm
by rstevens81
if im ever in the south east.. or your in the south west ill buy you a few beers just for putting your money where your mouth is with the 300h

Re: [WIP] BMW Z3
Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 6:32 pm
by Bigpie
Did you film any of it?

Re: [WIP] BMW Z3
Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 6:56 pm
by andybpowell
Bigpie wrote: โSun Feb 11, 2024 6:32 pm
Did you film any of it?
no it was something of a nervous drive with too many potential points of failure to be distracted by other things I'll do it when it's a bit more finished
I still have to sort out the charging, power steering, BMS, reverse light, cooling fan and the spaghetti I call wiring
Re: [WIP] BMW Z3
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 6:26 am
by barracuda816
Do you have a feeling of the top speed with your diff and tyre set up? Also have you got both mg2 and mg1 spinning up? What did the power feel like? Great work by the way. Really interesting project.
Re: [WIP] BMW Z3
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:15 am
by andybpowell
barracuda816 wrote: โMon Feb 12, 2024 6:26 am
Re: [WIP] BMW Z3
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Post by barracuda816 ยป Mon Feb 12, 2024 6:26 am
Do you have a feeling of the top speed with your diff and tyre set up? Also have you got both mg2 and mg1 spinning up? What did the power feel like? Great work by the way. Really interesting project.
using mg1 and mg2, it feels really quick as for top speed I'd only be guessing, theoretically with the mg2 limit being 14000 rpm my car was showing 50mph at 7000 rpm so a nice legal 70 mph at 10000 rpm so you could guess at 100 mph but thats assuming it would reach 14000 rpm with my maximum 400 Volts under load but making assumptions based on some numbers scribbled on a cigarette packet is not my way so I'll test it and see and share the results when I have

Re: [WIP] BMW Z3
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:05 pm
by Woodfie
Hi , have just seen your recent posts, Well done you have made heaps of progress..that I have missed in the last two weeks..
Look Forward to further test runs.
Re: [WIP] BMW Z3
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:14 pm
by Woodfie
andybpowell wrote: โFri Feb 09, 2024 12:35 pm
sadly my backs still giving me grief so not much progress built a new board to control the ancillaries and did a little testing
bear in mind this is with the wheels off the ground so no real load this equated to 50Mph
Screenshot 2024-02-09 121204.png
On this wheels of the ground 7000rpm ,
Just confirming
think that is mg2 speed ?
The idc is 700 A ?
Or have I got the scaling wrong
Re: [WIP] BMW Z3
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:22 pm
by Woodfie
Okay, have seen other scale to the left, hidden when phone viewing..
PHEW
30A looks far more reasonable...
So please correct me if needed,
50mph without road load is around 12Kw (30 ร 400v ) from the battery ?
Re: [WIP] BMW Z3
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:45 pm
by andybpowell
Woodfie wrote: โMon Feb 12, 2024 7:22 pm
Okay, have seen other scale to the left, hidden when phone viewing..
PHEW
30A looks far more reasonable...
So please correct me if needed,
50mph without road load is around 12Kw (30 ร 400v ) from the battery ?
batt voltage was 355v during tests
Re: [WIP] BMW Z3
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:09 pm
by andybpowell
I've been doing some more wiring today and now have canbus comms to the charger/dc-dc and the power steering which is good sadly I have made no progress with the inverter heatsink temperature spike if anyone has any thoughts I'm all ears it does seem to be the only thing thats doing this so I'm ruling out any kind of data corruption caused by hv wiring etc as other things would be affected if that was the case.
Also, I decided to keep the entire motor to gearbox coupling to lock the input shaft, this was a bad idea as it rattles like mad going on and off the throttle I think it's made worse by my badly worn diff to lock it up solid I've either got to drop the l210 or take out the front batt box, inverter and charger none of which are easy 5 minute jobs that will teach me for being clever

Re: [WIP] BMW Z3
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:52 pm
by celeron55
Does the heatsink temperature spike happen always at the same speed?
Re: [WIP] BMW Z3
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 9:29 pm
by andybpowell
celeron55 wrote: โMon Feb 12, 2024 8:52 pm
Does the heatsink temperature spike happen always at the same speed?
this crossed my mind also, need to do some more testing to check
Re: [WIP] BMW Z3
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:12 pm
by aot93
I have the same temp over read on mine also whilst bench testing.
Temp shoots up once the motor is turning.
I came across some other instances as well notably:
viewtopic.php?p=50409#p50409
I've tried moving the bytes where this temp is taken from in the code but no success, so for now I have just commented it out.
Re: [WIP] BMW Z3
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:15 pm
by andybpowell
aot93 wrote: โTue Feb 13, 2024 2:12 pm
I have the same temp over read on mine also whilst bench testing.
Temp shoots up once the motor is turning.
I came across some other instances as well notably:
viewtopic.php?p=50409#p50409
I've tried moving the bytes where this temp is taken from in the code but no success, so for now I have just commented it out.
I would risk removing it also so I can get on with the project but I wouldnt know how
I'm hoping Damien gets his 300h in soon and discovers the same issue as the car is basically undriveable as it stands, worse case is I abandon the 300h and try to fit a 450h in which would be a shame as the l210 shows a lot of promise and I'm not sure a 450h would fit
Re: [WIP] BMW Z3
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:29 pm
by aot93
I can send you a version with a hardcoded value for testing purposes.
What zombie fw are you currently using?
Re: [WIP] BMW Z3
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:53 pm
by crasbe
aot93 wrote: โTue Feb 13, 2024 3:29 pm
I can send you a version with a hardcoded value for testing purposes.
Just please don't publish it here publicly, unofficial binaries can lead to significant issues in the long run.