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Re: Tesla Model 3 Rear Drive Unit Hacking

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:17 pm
by Jack Bauer
Weigh in for the rear drive unit.

Re: Tesla Model 3 Rear Drive Unit Hacking

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:47 pm
by Jack Bauer

Re: Tesla Model 3 Rear Drive Unit Hacking

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:01 pm
by MattsAwesomeStuff
Awww yisss.

Every time a new project's motor spins, an angel gets his wings.

That first wiggle of movement where you pump your fist in the air, nod to your buddies, and say "Fuck yeah!"


Re: Tesla Model 3 Rear Drive Unit Hacking

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:14 pm
by Jack Bauer
So, first power up of the M3 rdu inverter on the bench. Elon flashed some nice coloured leds at me and pumped out massive amounts of CAN on TWO busses. I took a sample for posterity. Up on the github repo for the can hackers :)
https://github.com/damienmaguire/Tesla- ... Drive-Unit

Re: Tesla Model 3 Rear Drive Unit Hacking

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:44 pm
by Jack Bauer
Now we can start the real hacking. Phase one : eliminate the musk, eliminate the problem.

Pin 124 of the TMS main processor is the reset pin called XRS. Pulling that to ground puts Elon asleep and leaves everything else up and running. Easy pickings for the upcoming HubenAtor XM-3000 modchip:)

Re: Tesla Model 3 Rear Drive Unit Hacking

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:48 pm
by Kevin Sharpe
"time to get some sleep Elon... night, night"

https://twitter.com/EvBmw/status/123850 ... 38432?s=20

Re: Tesla Model 3 Rear Drive Unit Hacking

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:22 pm
by Jack Bauer

Re: Tesla Model 3 Rear Drive Unit Hacking

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:50 pm
by JeanVapeur
Hi Damian,
maybe this pictures helps you a little bit in your exploration...

Re: Tesla Model 3 Rear Drive Unit Hacking

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:28 am
by Jack Bauer
Great to see the underside. Many thanks.

Re: Tesla Model 3 Rear Drive Unit Hacking

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2020 10:11 am
by Kevin Sharpe
JeanVapeur wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:50 pm maybe this pictures helps you a little bit in your exploration...
Do you have any photo's of the power stage?

Re: Tesla Model 3 Rear Drive Unit Hacking

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2020 11:04 am
by Kevin Sharpe
Kevin Sharpe wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 10:11 am
JeanVapeur wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:50 pm maybe this pictures helps you a little bit in your exploration...
Do you have any photo's of the power stage?
Some useful info in this article;

ABOUT THE SIC MOSFETS MODULES IN TESLA MODEL 3
Model3-inverter-e1530096423831-450x328.jpg

Re: Tesla Model 3 Rear Drive Unit Hacking

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:13 pm
by JeanVapeur
Thats all I found, possible this can help... ;)

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Re: Tesla Model 3 Rear Drive Unit Hacking

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:24 pm
by Jack Bauer
Anyone find a high res shot of the rear of the board? I'm getting a feeling old Elon is using bootstrap gate drivers:)

Re: Tesla Model 3 Rear Drive Unit Hacking

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:56 pm
by Jack Bauer
Yep. D421,D422and D423. High side bootstrap diodes:)

Re: Tesla Model 3 Rear Drive Unit Hacking

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:33 pm
by Jack Bauer
So a little more investigation reveals a Viper16A based power supply section used to generate the low side iso voltages. Not 100% sure as yet but looks to be derived from the hv. Can't say I like this. They're building cars not cheap mobile phone chargers. A multi output dcdc wouldn't have put them out of more than a few $...

Re: Tesla Model 3 Rear Drive Unit Hacking

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:23 pm
by Jack Bauer
elon busted my chops on this one but we have control of the mosfets:)

Re: Tesla Model 3 Rear Drive Unit Hacking

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:21 pm
by slow67
Jack Bauer wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:23 pm elon busted my chops on this one but we have control of the mosfets:)
Great job Damien!

Re: Tesla Model 3 Rear Drive Unit Hacking

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:16 pm
by Jack Bauer

Re: Tesla Model 3 Rear Drive Unit Hacking

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:14 am
by Jack Bauer
First spin of a motor using the rear drive unit inverter. Switching at 17.6khz.

Re: Tesla Model 3 Rear Drive Unit Hacking

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:13 am
by cloudy
Excellent!!!

Re: Tesla Model 3 Rear Drive Unit Hacking

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:01 pm
by Jack Bauer

Re: Tesla Model 3 Rear Drive Unit Hacking

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:26 pm
by Jack Bauer
Current sensors seem to be easy. J2 header just below the phase terminals gives access.

Analog output of 2.5v at 0A. Measured the following :

Sensor B : 2.500V at 0A going to 2.487V at 1A and 2.4845V at 10A

Sensor A : 2.4980V at 0A going to 2.4964V at 1A and 2.4823V at 10A

Re: Tesla Model 3 Rear Drive Unit Hacking

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:30 pm
by Jack Bauer
And with Elon awake we get a 10khz sine wave as our resolver exciter that goes away when he sleeps .....hmmmm

Re: Tesla Model 3 Rear Drive Unit Hacking

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:23 pm
by Jack Bauer
Here we go ...

Re: Tesla Model 3 Rear Drive Unit Hacking

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:49 am
by Jack Bauer
Decided to take the plunge and give Kicad a go for the model 3 modchip. Intermediate schematic attached. Still need to add a few things like changing Uart2 to LIN for oil pump control etc.