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I have purchased an Outlander front motor 60kw 14000 rpm. I can get the controller as well but before I buy it - i need to know that i can get it talking the the motor. Any know how this can be done? Thanks
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nikejamie wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:50 pm I have purchased an Outlander front motor 60kw 14000 rpm. I can get the controller as well but before I buy it - i need to know that i can get it talking the the motor. Any know how this can be done? Thanks
You should definitely get that controler!
Damien demonstrated that it can be controlled by CAN

https://github.com/damienmaguire/Outlander-PHEV

Also this guy ran the car using Outlander RWD combo...
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Hi
I am doing the same thing and only finding limited info on this topic, if any one has successfully run the rear motor and rear inverter ,
Please share.
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I have a single front motor in at the moment controlled by a gen 3 prius inverter. It's a little under powered but would be interested in how you get on with can control the the stock inverter.
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I'm going to need a hacksaw
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arber333 wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 10:31 am
nikejamie wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:50 pm I have purchased an Outlander front motor 60kw 14000 rpm. I can get the controller as well but before I buy it - i need to know that i can get it talking the the motor. Any know how this can be done? Thanks
You should definitely get that controler!
Damien demonstrated that it can be controlled by CAN

https://github.com/damienmaguire/Outlander-PHEV

Also this guy ran the car using Outlander RWD combo...
viewtopic.php?p=31290#p31290
Thanks so so much - you have helped me so much
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Thanks so much - you have helped me so much
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I have just found out that the motor is the front generator motor which still should be controlled by the inverter control unit. However i also found out that i need a front inverter control unit. And the one i was looking at is a rear motor control unit. Does anyone know where I can a get a front control unit. Thanks
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Where about's are you? If you're in the UK 07312973871/erikaopolskiene50@gmail.com is a good Outlander breaker. You have the same motor/generator that my self(VW Beetle) and bobby_come_lately(BMW Z3) have in our cars.
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I've done nearly 500miles on the outlander setup in the mini now and am very impressed with it, easy to control and very smooth, regen works really well etc.

Let me know if you need any help on the control side.

I've not tried it but I don't see why a rear unit can't control a front motor, you would need to get the resolver wiring correct and the generator has an additional temperature sensor.

That being said if you don't have one best to get the front one. Try to get the harness with what ever you get as they are hard to find.
Another good uk outlander breaker not far from heathrow: tel:+447442313023
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I have contacted the numbers you all gave me and one of the guys have said that they have a front controller. Please confirm that the pic is the correct controller. Sorry i am quite new to this forum and do not know how to attach the pic. Can someone please help? Thanks again
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I think i found it. let me give a go and see what happens.
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Sorry what i meant to ask - Is the above pic the correct inverter for the front motor and generator?
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That is a front inverter.

It should have 3 oval holes on the back.
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Should i get the following throttle as well
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What is it from?

I use a pedal from a VW polo very easy and cheap to get hold off, and looks similar to above.
You want one with you dual pots (normally a 6 pin connector) for safety IMO..

What is your project?
Have you thought about VCU, battery BMS and charging?
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it is the throttle from the Outlander. So i think it should work with the original setup.

Phase one we going to get motor and controller working. Then we will look for any donor vehicle. Probably a VW citigolf. Then we will look at batteries (probably secondhand)
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Great news - i managed to get the controller and throttle from a scrap Outlander PHEV. How does the regeneration work? Is there a sensor under the brake pedal? How are you guys doing it? Thanks
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A recuperation sensor is built into the brake pedal from the phev outlander
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Thanks. I have found one for £15
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Is there any way to disassemble this motor without damaging it. I need to take it to South Africa and need to reduce overweight baggage charges. The last time i took an inverter and managed to disassemble a bit of it to reduce the baggage charges. Thanks
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nikejamie wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 2:23 pm Is there any way to disassemble this motor without damaging it. I need to take it to South Africa and need to reduce overweight baggage charges. The last time i took an inverter and managed to disassemble a bit of it to reduce the baggage charges. Thanks
Maybe you could take apart the motor (rotor/stator) and send it to yourself as extra luggage? I think limit for this is at 30kg so maybe you ould get away with it...
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Please forgive my lack of knowledge. I tried removing cover on (Outlander PHEV Motor 2.jpeg) When i removed bolts the plate was super stuck. This is the side with the shaft sticking out. Should i have removed the cover on the other side (Outlander PHEV Motor 1.jpeg)? - i think the resolver is on this side. Should i remove resolver first. Thanks
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Remove the little cover on the back, then the resolver, then you can remove the back cover. The rotor can be pressed out then if desired, it'll take a bit of effort because of the magnets. The stator coils can then be removed also if desired.

There's photos on the wiki from when I disassembled mine. https://openinverter.org/wiki/Mitsubish ... _Transaxle
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